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 No.1[Reply]

Welcome to the best place to discuss retro anime! Please keep your posts mainly focused around pre 2000s works - remakes are OK if they're based on an older work.


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 No.3616[Reply]

I started reading Slam Dunk yesterday! It's pretty hilarious and almost makes me want to watch a basketball game


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 No.3527[Reply]

Retro anime isn't just the Otaku boom anime of the 80s you know! The 60s and 70s have a lot to offer and mostly gets ignored.
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 No.3596

>>3529
It's funny, when I started to get more into anime one of the shows I decided to watch was Captain Harlock and to this day I still have no idea why I watched or even how I completed it without stopping. It wasn't bad per se, but I don't think I enjoyed it as much as others did. I was even going hard into it watching 6 episodes a fucking day which mean I finished it within a week but I truly don't know why.

Years later I've seen a lot more 70s stuff, mainly the popular subbed stuff (Joe, Takarajima, Ace no Narae, Lupin etc.) but it's always funny to look back on the first 70s one I watched.

>>3548
Based, I remember showing my anime club Joe years back and while they seemed to enjoy it, a lot of people also commented how it was "very old" and "boring" so who truly knows. I've been wanting to watch Star of the Giants for years but knowing it's probably going to mostly be filler probably isn't a good idea. A shame it hasn't been subbed anyhow.

> (sorry, don't know how to make a video of it)

Look up "Webm for retards" (it's literally called that but might just be under "Web, converter" now). That's how I began making webms back in the day and still use it today, lol. It just works.

 No.3597

I gotta get back to Aim for the Ace!

 No.3604

>>3593
>>3594
And finished, masterfully crafted series that I feel more people should highly look into while watching old school anime and a good introduction to the works of leiji matsumoto

 No.3613

Do not forget the one and only Grendizer

Time when protagonists and mechs were so epic you actually wanted to pilot something like this, wearing this awesome outfit. Good music too. No amount of Gundam could get even close.

 No.3614

>>3613
I just started watching this after finishing harlock, have watched the previous two Mazinger installments but I really do like this one, also saw the crossover movie where Great Mazinger gets stolen



 No.3599[Reply]

does this count as a retro anime?
some friends over at discord told me that it didnt 😭
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 No.3601

>>3599
It counts since the series came out in 1998

 No.3602

I have to wonder what the criteria are if CCS doesn't count

 No.3603

>>3599
@everyone

 No.3607

Wapchan uses cel and digital as the dividing line. Animation mostly switched to digital after 2001.

 No.3612

>>3599
some friends over at discord told me that it didnt
Are your discord friends living in 2000 or something? Because if so I'm jealous of them.



 No.3605[Reply]

I have never really watched any retro anime other than Akira. What are the classic "go-to" retro animes you ladies enjoy? Thx!

 No.3606

>>3605
I guess it would be good to know what kind of anime you are into. If you liked Akira then try Dominion Tank Police, Cyber City Oedo 808 or Jin Roh.

 No.3610

>>3606
Is there any good shojo series? ^-^

 No.3611

>>3610
I'd say any CLAMP or Showa 24 Group work would do nicely, maybe Minky Momo if you want historical significance



 No.2922[Reply]

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 No.3138

>>3129
fantastic stuff. ty.

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>>2924
The Dirty Pair anime is going to be 40 years old in a few months.

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 No.3295[Reply]

In response to >>1262 I'll make a brief post about why colors were so damned good in cel animation versus modern productions.

1. Paint

They're quite literally using real world paints on plastic cels to photograph so the colors are much better quality and more realistic.

2. Film stock

They were shot on 16mm or 35mm film, and film stock had strived for decade for rich strong colors and strong contrasts. Most television anime was shot in 16mm film, and 35mm used for theatrical films or television OPs.

Then they shifted to digital formats, and with them digital color spaces and palettes. More washed out, lacking contrast, overly bright, like there's a haze or some kind of bright light out. This is also an issue for live action productions.
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 No.3465

>>3449
true!

 No.3467

>>3464
1997 was actually a bad year for Japan's economy. 1992 saw the economic bubble of the late 80s burst, and had already started causing a slow decline, and then 1997 saw the Asian financial market crash, which damaged Japan's economy even more. Even the mainstream Japanese music industry, which saw a boom when people could no longer afford houses and other big picture stuff, so would spend more on consumer goods, saw its peak right at 1998 when Sakura began to air.

NHK, Kodansha, and Sogo Vision funded Cardcaptor Sakura, not Clamp themselves. As a Kodansha manga serialized in Nakayoshi they would probably be the primary rights holders, and would be giving Clamp some royalties from any money made off of the franchise. Not that Clamp didn't have any say over how the anime went, but it's not like it was their project.

>Keep in mind, these were purely japanese studios with japanese employees whose profession was to make japanese anime.


Massive outsourcing to Asia for lower level jobs like inbetweening was already extremely common by then, Gundam Wing for example would start with layouts and rough key animation from a Japanese Studio (Dove) and then all the animation would be finished up over in Asia by their overseas subsidiaries.

>Then japan slowly spiraled into a forever recession and lots of the older experienced studios shut down or consolidated.


Like who? Sunrise, Toei, Tatsunoko, Pierrot, Deen, Ashi Pro, Madhouse, Gainax, Production IG, AIC, OLM etc, all the big established studios of the 90s persisted into the 2000s. It was more marginal studios like E&G that died out in the early 2000s.

The answer to why Cardcaptor Sakura looks as good as it does, is likely just because Madhouse gave it a good schedule and good staff. They also did X 1999 a few years earlier, which looks phenomenal as well.

 No.3468

>>3467
>Cont

Double checked.

>NHK, Kodansha, and Sogo Vision funded Cardcaptor Sakura, not Clamp themselves. As a Kodansha manga serialized in Nakayoshi they would probably be the primary rights holders, and would be giving Clamp some royalties from any money made off of the franchise. Not that Clamp didn't have any say over how the anime went, but it's not like it was their project.


Looks like Clamp actually did contribute costume designs and screenplays for the anime. Still, I'm not finding any evidence of them being on the production committee for it.

 No.3471

>>3464
A little off topic but kinda wanted to clarify a few things.
>Last good decade
The economy is still pretty high all things considered, not exactly bubble era tier but still in the top 5 GDP surprisingly.
>Outsourcing to other countries
That’s has been done since the 60s, the golden bat anime for instance had some work done in korea which is also why it had a following there but couldn’t say it was Japanese. Also sunrise did some stuff as well, not as much but then all those Korean bootleg knockoffs begin to make much more sense as to where they got the character designs from lol

 No.3608

>>3338
Good news. A way to replicate them faithfully digitally was found by using Blender.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSkk5MDmfz0
Unfortunately, it'd have to take for someone to do an incredibly viral and famous animation for Japanese animation studios to adopt a similar software.



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 No.1152[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Share cool retro anime Webms and GIFs with your fellow anons.Any other supported format is fine as well.
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This kind of shot is super hard in 2D animation.

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>>3588
It was interesting seeing studios experiment with shots like this once 3D backgrounds became more common.

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 No.3560[Reply]

What are your favorites that are in DIRE DESPERATE need of new remastered releases. The more trapped on older dead media they are the better.
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 No.3572

>>3566
Never really got the feeling that Criterion cares that much about animation in general.

>>3568
Arguably Oshii's masterpiece. It's visually engaging and experimental in a good way. One of the interesting things about animation as a medium is that the creators are free to take it in any direction they want. Gosenzo-sama Banbanzai! gives you a stage play where the camera/viewer can be placed anywhere, and no special effect is out of reach. Plus, on top of that it's genuinely really funny. Tie it all together with animation from some of the best animators of the time (hashimoto, ohira, iso, ect.), and you have one fantastic OVA.

 No.3573

>>3572
>Never really got the feeling that Criterion cares that much about animation in general.

That is correct. They're kind of snobby and high brow and seem to think that animation is beneath them, or not part of their purview. They did release that Akira Laserdisc in the 90s, but that was before Akira had any good home releases that weren't just cropped VHS tapes.

You could make the case that there's a lot of overlooked and ignored Soviet, European, and Japanese, animation and some need restoration and care. They would have be high brow to fit the Criterion brand though.

I definely think we need a criterion for anime though.

 No.3576

>>3573
>I definitely think we need a criterion for anime though.
It would be nice. Feels like studios have rather random output with HD masters for their older anime. You might get one that's very well done and then another not long after that seemingly uses an older, worse mastering process. If Criterion were to remaster an anime you'd need something artsy, important, and I suppose something with no HD transfer or one done very poorly.The hardest part would be to decide which anime are the most culturally significant or important. For me, the one that leaps to mind instantly is the End of Evangelion. The TV show had an over all fantastic HD transfer sans episode 16, but the movie's transfer looks like an abortion. I feel that lots of films made during the transition to CG effects and digipaint suffer from this. While not entirely pre 2000s, Satoshi Kon's films are all perfect candidates. I did see that Perfect Blue was supposedly getting a new and better remaster, but the previews I saw did not impress me.

 No.3582

i love wap chan. i can just open a random thread and find a new anime to watch.

 No.3592

>>3582
make a video essay about them too you fucking newfren homo



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 No.3231[Reply]

Current /cel/ has too much nostalgia wank. Too little quality show discussion. Manga is also 100x bigger and more varied and has better quality controls than retro anime to boot! Posting is very stale for what should be the core of the site. It should be about new discoveries, new 16mm scans, preservation projects, new laserdisc scans! Let's use this thread to highlight projects in the retro anime scene. I'll start:

A fansub of an anime short included in a V-Jump Festival '95 Video VHS tape, themed around Dragon Quest and starring Slime was released a few weeks ago.
https://www.lonelychaser-subs.net/2025/04/v-jump-festival-95-video-slimes.html
https://nyaa.si/view/1956932
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 No.3391

>>3381
Bebop Laserdisc looks the same as the original released DVD just slightly less sharp so it's the usual but Bebop changes aren't really visual anyways even if Blu Ray is darker.
https://youtu.be/vK3G07zN6NA

 No.3392

>>3387
It is, the only HD direct scan SM has is the movies which are sadly only in 16:9 (played in theaters that way but it was animated and shown on Tav 4:3 so it's better) and fan upload of Sailor Stars op.
https://youtu.be/322WvZ3e2zs

 No.3437

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You can literally see white specs fly up during the scene.

 No.3587

Any new 16mm or 35mm fan scans?

 No.3589

>>3587
Fuck you.



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