/cel/ - Retro Anime & Manga

>>2837
It really is.

Please stream horror

>>2695
How do you hunt a city?

>>2703
By taking out the trash and harassing women.

I decided to try the City Hunter 91 and it was an improvement over 3. I did feel it was more creative and may have even gone too far (maybe with the ghost episodes), but I prefer risk-taking over repetition. I think I will eventually watch Angel Heart as well.

>>2745
I've heard controversial opinions about Angel Heart. Some people like the more serious direction and others don't. I've yet to see/read it myself.

>>2695
this is a quintessential wap anime imo. Love to put this on in the background during parties and stuff, such an aesthetically perfect show.

I recommend all of you to watch the italian live action of Kiss me Licia.
The anime didn't have the expected success in Japan but in Italy it was very well received.

I hate to be a downer, but most of these I cannot get through the first episode.

Today I watched a movie called metamorphosis/wings of change that apparently also had quite a bit of American involvement (and I mean apparently this movie had some American animators involved including Virgil Ross of looney tunes fame best known for designing bugs bunny), another animator on the Japanese side of things is maya matsuyama who also did other Sanrio works and later was an animator on Pokémon! TFW I just learned that an animator for Golden age looney tunes and an animator for 90s Pokémon worked on the same project. Crazy stuff

Those Who Hunt Elves is an underrated gem.

>>2836
Might check that out later

>>2756
Yeah the logic I was trying to go for was
>1
I imagine Joe and Kamille would being arguing about something since they're both hot headed to the point that Lina would get pissed at them too and you're just sitting next to three incredibly loud angry people
>2
Self explanatory
>3
Self explanatory
>4
Honestly, I should've switched Gendo and Usagi I guess. I think sitting next to Gendo would just be boring and he wouldn't want you to talk over him to Usagi if you wanted to, but maybe Usagi does nothing but watch movies or listen to music. I haven't seen Sailor Moon.
>5
I haven't seen Patlabor so I assumed Noa is above 18 and then assume Ryo would do everything he could to talk to her while avoiding you (unless you were a woman, then he'd spend a lot of time talking to you)
>6
Honestly I felt being ANYWHER near Griffith would be horrible but I also imagine Lupin would be doing something that's up to no good or perhaps chatting up Lum which would be annoying on a long flight.
>7
Self explanatory
>8
My logic was that since Tylor is a parody of Yang. Reinhardt would get into some discussion about something that eventually evolved into Reinhardt becoming completely dumbfounded by Tylor in general while whatever the hell happens in the row above being unknown.

Also I like to imagine if shit began going south quick the good guys would save the day. Griffith probably couldn't stand Lina's Dragon Slave and I'm sure some bullshit from Tylor will somehow make Dio's time stop malfunction.

>>2758
Usagi is a typical teenage girl, immature, self-centered and complains a lot, but she is not a bad person. Lina might remind her of Rei, Sailor Mars, which would give in to an argument if they were close, but i don't think any of them would go overboard.

Noa is an adult, but maybe her tomboyish style would remind Ryo of Kaori. Irene might be more of the mokkori bijin type he'd go after.

I see Griffith as acting on ideals and with purpose, if you are on his way you are done for, otherwise you are safe, but he wouldn't act arbitrarily or out of annoyance. Either way, it's a lot that is not cast by you and maybe not really even by him. I don't think anything in there could stop events set in motion related to Griffith, it's the type of thing that can change the structure of reality. That's why I chose the Cthulhu protocol, if I see him there, I already think I'm fucked.

Toguro I see keeping to himself in common circumstances, but Lupin might be a type of guy who bothers him, and I'm certain Dio is.

Dio, even without time stopping power, is the one most likely of making things go out of control due to his psychotic unpredictability.

And Hisoka is probably ok (as long as you are no young boys on board).

Maybe Goku would be able to act fast enough to teleport the problem out of the plane, 2 or 3 might be good places to tip him off.

>>2753
Original op here, sorry for the late response but this is pretty great lol. I’d pick 5 honestly, noa would be great have a long talk about mecha and the like, ryo as well though I haven’t seen city hunter (yet). Goddamnit goku you had to take rally’s spot although I can’t imagine what kind of things they’d chat about anyway. Also get dio, Griffith and that clown off the plane immediately, I’d rather have the lovely angels on the same flight

>>2829
Ah! I never thought about The Dirty Pair. That would've been fun to add onto there instead of Gendo or Usagi. Maybe I should do another one with different characters for fun. Having ALL of pre-2000s anime to go through is kinda tough lol, still a lot of stuff I've never seen so a lot were just fun guesses. I wanted there to be bad guys on the plane no matter what to make each seat have a downside but I think having these two sitting in a row would just be trouble no matter, haha.

>>2832
Agreed lol

>>562
The first three DBZ movies are still pretty martial arts-oriented. I think they feature the best fight choreography in official DB media.

Finally a place where I can discuss the dragon ball series in its prime, none of that DBS nonsense or over the top powerlevel shenanigans, just the way I once knew the franchise. Just an excuse to bring this thread back with the dragon balls lol

>>557
I really liked dragonball when i was younger, but I was a bit too dumb as a kid to pirate the anime/manga, and was more a fan of the weird online mix the sonic community had with them.
Nazo Unleashed being the huge deal at the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-etGCr7SM4

I'm definitely going to rewatch the anime. When I have kids I want my sons to enjoy some good classic shounen

RUN.

>>2172
You can’t escape https://youtube.com/watch?v=rPS4mbYFOWg

>>2812
Late response but seems about right, just discovered more about the timeline itself more in depth

>>2818
What you've said about art being a mirror to explore your own feelings was essentially what I meant, so we're basically saying the same thing. I was referring to the person engaging with the art, not the artist when I said that. And I don't disagree that new forms or styles are created and as technology advances to new places fresh concepts can be explored.

However, I can't agree with the idea that an anime director for instance doesn't put their own issues or emotions into their art to some degree, andit doesn't have to be as upfront and in your face as evangelion's psychology or existentialism either. Perfect Blue's story in part criticizes idol and celebrity culture likely because Satoshi Kon had personal feelings about how it negatively affected japanese culture, the choice to explore a deteriorating mental state and how it can completely alter the way a story is told could be seen in the same way. Even stylistic choices of a shows editing or character design could be seen as reflective of the artists personality.

Then again, this is an old tired argument of the death of the artist, and whether that's meaningful to even consider when watching something. And it's possible I might be misunderstanding you in some ways. My point really is that art (mostly) is human, and you can't escape human emotion or ideas when dealing with anime ir any human art form. I don't think it's something you need to consider when taking an anime in even, but I do think the artists feeling and thought process is there, no artist can entirely remove themselves from that.

Unrelated, but what were your thoughts on Ghost in the Shell? That's the latest /cel/ related anime I've seen.

>>2819
I guess we mostly agree then. I'm not denying that an animator's personality and feelings don't go into their work. What I don't like is the culture of reducing art to the artist. I like to see art as a sandbox the creator has setup for you to play around in, but its rigged to nudge you in a certain direction or make you feel a certain thing. You can see their fingerprints everywhere.

>art (mostly) is human, and you can't escape human emotion or ideas when dealing with anime ir any human art form.
I'm not sure there are universal human experiences beyond extremely basic biological functions. What it means to be a person has changed radically over the centuries. I'd like to see art that explores the experience of being non-human, inhuman or the limits where the line between human and non-human becomes blurry.

>what were your thoughts on Ghost in the Shell?
I love the way the film explores the breakdown of the human-machine divide and the way it represents that visually. Motoko disappearing into the concrete jungle as if humanity itself is dissolving into the artificial. The famous diving scene, the nudity, dream sequences etc. The way the machines almost feel organic. It really nails that deep sense of unease at the possibility reality isn't what it seems, the doubt about one's own existence. Its an old theme in religion and mysticism less in fiction but combined with post-modern anxieties about tech and dystopia. You really feel Motoko's depersonalization and commodification, her lack of agency and the way her identity has been stripped.

1790s manga > 90s anime

>>2820
Yeah, seems we're not too different in our way of thinking. I'm probably not as experienced in anime as much as you are. There's quite a few essential classics I haven't seen yet. Most of my anime experience has been from the 2000s around the time I grew up. I like to stick to the 90s-2000s, but I'll probably start branching out.

As for Ghost in the Shell, It seems like you got more enjoyment out of it than me. It seems like we probably majorly differ in in our interest in themes. The self indulgence of evangelion's existentialism and exploration of mental illness engaged me far more, whereas Ghost in the Shell felt far less human. I mean I get that was the point, and I don't consider it a flaw.I just think that the film was a stylish enjoyable military type action film with themes I wasn't that engaged with. In excited to try Lain, though. That'll be next.

Been searching for recommendations for great anime from the 90s. You seem like you know a lot. If you have any share them in the anime topic room at https://depvana.com/topic/195
There I'm trying to compile a permanent list. cheers,