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 No.215[Reply]


= N O T I C E =

As of April 16th 2025, any discussion of manga and anime will be outcast from this board. We have at least four boards you can post that stuff too. Out of respect for the users of /lit/ please do not post manga/anime related images unless they have a book edited within the picture (as shown in pic related). Any discussions about manga/anime will be moved to their respective boards. The only Japanese related media that can be posted here is literature. Thank you.

- janny off the payroll.


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 No.33[Reply]

...Wapchan's greatest battleground. Anything relating to the topic of literature can be discussed here; from fiction, to politics, and philosophy—so long as it's civil. Any and all threads shilling an ideology or narrative will be removed. For any erotic literature; it’s allowed, so long as extremely graphic prose is spoilered. This rule also applies to all NSFW images that accompany the thread. Other than that, you can discuss anything you want.


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 No.312[Reply]

Anyone currently reading any cyberpunk novels? I'm currently reading the first book in the sprawl trilogy: neuromancer. Give your thoughts if you have completed reading them.
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 No.348

>>319

Yeah, but Dick is also just a genuinely awful prose stylist. Gibson is at least passable in that regard.

 No.349

Like sure, Gibson's appeal is mostly stylistic but it's a more aesthetically pleasing experience than wading through PKD's sludgy understanding of the English language

 No.350

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>>348
>>349
The best filter for the aesthetically obsessed. Even with strange prose, PKD still managed to create several more meaningful novels compared to Gibson.

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>>350
Don't get me wrong, I like PKD a lot better, Faith of Our Fathers is one of my favorite short stories of all time. It's just that he can get grating.

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I know Gibson's works tend to age poorly to a lot of people already, but I wondered recently if the rise of AI will see his work age (more) poorly, as Gibson is very sympathetic towards AI in his works and modern AI has so far proven to be nothing but a scourge. Take Neuromancer, about (among many other things) an AI who wants to be free - who truly only wants to be free, no ulterior motive, no evil. Idoru is about an AI who suffers just as people do under corporations and seeks to be free of tyranny, a very human and relatable emotion. I appreciate seeing these takes on AI just on the novelty of it, but now that AI has come about and has been so evil, I find the themes a bit more difficult to stomach.



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 No.59[Reply]

Thread for appreciating the ultimate form of literature, its origin and goal, in which words are in perfect unison with music, action and visuals. What was lost in Greek tragedy, was found again in Wagner!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoYkK6T-lGk
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 No.62

>>61
Thank you for your reply, I will start with Tannhäuser then. I own the recording by Konwitschny and a libretto, so I will likely listen to that one instead of Solti. Also because Fischer-Dieskau is one of the few singers I actually manage to understand.

I also remembered a funny Wagner-related anecdote from the circle around Stefan George: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBk002KDYEE&t=1724

 No.65

>>62
A George related Wagner story! that's pretty rare. I'm surprised he didn't stay awake for it, since some of George's earlier poems (like Algabal and Litanei) are on Wagnerian topics, but I guess they must have been inspired more by general culture at the time than a specific interest in Wagner.

Thanks for the cool story.

 No.66

>>59
Quick run down of Wagner? New to this subject.

 No.67

>>66
Wagner was the greatest and most influential composer after Beethoven, wrote operas early on in his career but later rejected the idea for the ‘Gesamtkunstwerk’ (total-artwork), in which all the arts join together in equal importance, which is something that has been unseen since the Greeks, hence it’s a return to both the culture and art of Ancient Greece, but with the advantage of the full development of the arts of music and painting, which Ancient Greece only had in a more primitive form. So Wagner was equally a dramatist and theorist as a composer, and his dramas and theories have had an enormous influence on literature and various important philosophers in modernity.

 No.346

>>66
What the guy above said and also…
You know how movies use certain theme songs or melodies for specific characters or scenes? Wagner invented that.



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 No.213[Reply]

What you listening to?

 No.217

>>213
I like the Great Courses too my good sir, I'm listening (and watching) to How to Listen and Understand Great Music by Robert Greenberg. I don't like how he spergs out against certain germans and seems to excuse some fucked up Jewish individuals; but otherwise it's very good.
I'm also listening to Journey to the End of the Night by Céline. So far so good, it had its great moments but I have to keep reading. Hopefully it's better than War, it's the only other Céline book I read and I wasn't a fan.

 No.342

I'm listening to a lot of horrorbable lately. There is a playlist of short stories that are perfect for the time I spent biking.

 No.345

The only audiobook I have to my name is Roadside Picnic, unless you also count recordings of an amateur reading out things like the Enuma Elish, Popul Vuh, and Il Principe (audio rips of YouTube videos).



 No.104[Reply]

To depict the stroad, is to give love to a street. No other man would ever give twice a look to a strip of commercial neon and plastic signage. It's a foreign concept to many. Most would rather read of other worlds made up completely of other beings unlike themselves. And yet reality, the mundane condensed into a flowery mass of prose is a lot more fun to write. It's a lot harder to depict the boring in a creative sense then to write about an alien race zapping a planet to bits or to write about elves and their extremely long pointy ears. It's just how it is. Warping the real into the unknown and foreign is a lot more fun.



At least to me.

 No.105

>>104
>just another day of living the masshole life
least i got my dunks

 No.106

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When I was a kid, I loved the fantastical, especially science fiction. I would try to impart these stories and tropes into my own life, fictionalizing it as much as I could. As time has passed, that has quite changed: realistic fiction is my bread and butter. I do still enjoy fantasy and science fiction, but nowadays I do my best to attribute even the most abstract, futuristic, alien fantasy stories with elements from my own real life. I find that this has helped me make more sense of both fiction and my own life, though sometimes I feel guilty about the latter. With all of that said, I also find that the stories that offend me the most are stories that match my real life very closely.

 No.325

>>104
Oh anon, you'd love Charles Bukowski. He's kind of a chud writer but he writes about this.

 No.344

>>325
I dismembered you for recommending me MIDowski.



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 No.266[Reply]

What a wonderful piece of literature. For his first English novel, he did a fantastic job building his prose around the death of a writer. Everything in this book flows beautifully and every single line is well thought out and greatly coordinated. Great care was taken to make the reader be beside the main character of this story, as if you were following him through his journey to find out more about his brother (Sebastian Knight) and seeing him fit pieces of the puzzle that is his life. The wit is immense and hilariously funny, the ending being one of wit and of sadness. A must read, I highly recommend it.

 No.267

>>266
"Poor Knight! he really had two periods, the first -a dull man writing broken English, the second -a broken man writing dull English"

 No.304

I recently read this book and loved it!

 No.337

I recently read Pale Fire and totally fell in love but it also took me a bit to read cause of how dense it was… Do you reckon The Real Life of Sebastian Knight is tougher or lighter?

 No.343

Pale Fire is about as dense as it gets–it's certainly produced the most voluminous set of mildly deranged, mildly genius commentary from online Nabokov fans, if that's any indicator.



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 No.338[Reply]

I've been on the third book of the Dune series (Children of Dune) and have been kind of slacking through it, despite having blitzed the first two books. Is anyone else reading this series (and if so, can you harass me into finishing this thing so I can move onto God Emperor…)

 No.339

cute drawing OP

also just watch the movies lol

 No.340

CoD was okay but forgettable for me. The set up for crazy things in God Emperor makes up for it, though YMMV.

 No.341

>>339
this



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They're pretty delicious.
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 No.321

Sometimes.

 No.322

I used to eat paper and packets when I was a child. I stopped after I ate a candle and threw up.

 No.323

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it makes you smarter

 No.334

They're delicious

 No.335

I've only been eating Stephen King novels for the past six weeks. On an unrelated note, I've had non-stop diarrhea for the past six weeks as well. How do I stop this?



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Novels, biographies, short stories, essays, poems, songs even. I would like to read more dissociation stuff. This started when I read Loren Eiseley's "The Brown Wasps" (see attached,) which is on dissociation. It resonated so deeply with me, especially since the climax of that essay is similar to an experience I had some months before me reading the essay. I would like to read more stuff like this. Dissociation is such a wide phenomenon, so please feel free to share anything on the subject.


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