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 No.4441[Reply]

This is only 13 episodes long but it's so boring I'm deadass thinking about stopping not even halfway. Half the runtime is the Legion of Doom aura farming. Does this improve at all or do people only remember this show because of Deedlit?

 No.4444

>>4441
I honestly thought something similar watching it, I continued until the end though because I like the animation and ~vibes~. The plot itself is pretty slow, possibly on purpose to feel more like classic fantasy, and since it tries to be serious pretty much all the time it's got little in the way of humor. I genuinely can't remember the overarching plot beyond some ancient evil dark load etc. maybe dragons. Stuff like Berserk or Slayers (or many others) take the idea of classic medieval fantasy as a base and build on it with different genre stuff, which is why I find them much more watchable. There's something admirable about the 'purity' of the fantasy in Lodoss but I don't think I'd ever rewatch it.



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 No.4443[Reply]

>Voice actress Yukiko Nikaido passed away on July 3 at the age of 87 due to old age.
>She was best known to voice Fujiko Mine in the original Lupin the 3rd anime. With her passing, there are no more surviving members of the original 1971 main cast.
>Other voice roles include Anna in Marco - From the Apennines to the Andes, Sugaru in Kamui Gaiden: Tsukihigai no Maki, and Mrs. Kudo in One-Million Year Trip: Bander Book.

https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2468575/full/


 No.4392[Reply]

I've often seen people discuss Oniisama E and other retro shoujo manga like it as stories about lesbianism which praise its "representation" while at the same time faulting it for implying lesbianism is just a phase or in Rei's case it leads to death. So its somehow gay and homophobic and about homophobia at the same time. Lazy internet speculation gets even dumber when they see the sisterly relationship between Miya and Rei as homosexual incest. There's literally nothing in the manga or anime that points to that. Its just a sibling rivalry.

What Oniisama E actually shows are S kankei/class S relationships: romantic friendships between school girls that were seen as a prep phase for marriage with a guy. These were normal and socially acceptable in pre-war Japan and hyped up in women's literature. They aren't equivalent to lesbianism or proto-lesbian. In both the anime and the manga, the majority of the characters are also romantically involved with men and the same gender romances are almost always between older females and younger girls who meet in school. None of these girls are lesbian, they aren't exclusively attracted to women.

All of this stems from misinterpreting Japanese culture and taking things out of context. People wind up faulting another culture for not meeting their expectations. I figure what's really interesting about this is how the whole class S phenomenon shows us how romance didn't always operate by the hetero/homo dualism of the West and much of modern Japan and the weird cultural traditions that got sidelined by that dualism. There's something about shoving 21st century idpol onto a 1970s manga that pisses me off. Maybe I'm just being pedantic? Yeah Yeah Ranma Saotome is non binary despite that idea not even existing when Rumiko put pen to paper. I'm sick of it.

 No.4393

The internet is filled with crazies and there is nothing you can do except try to filter them or leave the sites they're on.
No use arguing with them.

 No.4409

>>4393
>The internet is filled with crazies … No use arguing with them.
Yup. People on the internet absolutely love to take a wholly surface level understanding of art, misunderstand things into a form that validates their existing biases, and boil down complicated things into an easily understood series of tropes. Just enjoy the things you like for what they are and ignore the retards.

 No.4411

kindmin really needs to bring back the vent thread lol gotta admire OP's autism

>>4409
I usually think people should be able to interpret things how they want but I get it. I also get pissed off when people interpret stuff in surface level ways but why? Am I a hypocrite?



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 No.4397[Reply]

It's actually the best Ghibli film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXfLjU7JBCw

 No.4398

>>4397

I doubt it's better than Takahata's masterpiece Omoide Poroporo. But i've not seen it yet, it keeps slipping by me because it's a TV movie and i rarely include TV movies in my search when i'm looking for shit to watch on IMDB.

 No.4399

>>4397
Yup, is the best one, funny thing it was a TV film with a C team. This, Maison Ikkoku: Kanketsuhen and Kimagure the movie are his best films in my opinion. I wish he did more stuff like this. He also directed other interesting stuff like Twin Spika, a really good tv show. Sadly all his other stuff is just commercial slop

 No.4404

>>4397
Best Ghibli score and hearing Tosa dialect in anime was refreshing. Best Ghibli film? It's near the top for shure.



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 No.1947[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Let's have a thread for pre-2000s anime music that you enjoy a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MGQpJq5KVs
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 No.4321

test
うぐぅ!
Uguu...

 No.4328

Very little can even reach the same league as this.
うぐぅ!
Uguu...

 No.4332

These Galaxy Express 999 theme songs are super whimsical to me. I love the orchestration and parts with the choir.

https://youtu.be/aKkNIzMZy2Q?is=GldsUfrenPocAtU0G

https://youtu.be/dbNLQ-5acxo?is=cljxQk-vLO7wF2lv

 No.4383


 No.4387

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I've been vibing to Lain's BOOTLEG album for the last while

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otUN-OdlpS8

Still have never watched the show



 No.4054[Reply]

Dear /cel/, what are some of your favorite normie-tier manga for their time? Lots of retro anime love here, little love for their manga counterparts, so let's share some. Picrel Love Hina, everyone I knew who read manga, read it as it was translated.
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 No.4057

>>4056
For sure, both are pre 2k.
I'd like to mention claymore, but that was 01, so I'll just post Kerberos/Jin-Roh instead.

 No.4058

I don't know if I count KPC as 'normie', but good read either way.
How about Parasyte?

 No.4098

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I love Rookies, if it counts (started in 1998).

I really didn't expect to like it as much as I did but Kawato is such an endearing character that I just fell in love with the whole thing. Seeing him go out of his way to do so much for that baseball team even when no one else would and leading all the students to actually want to try in Baseball again was just brilliant.

My favourite part of the manga will always be when in one game he goes up to an opposing pitcher who has been struggling in the game so far, tells him he's doing a fantastic job, then goes to the opposing coach to tell him to stop fucking around. He should take that kid off the mound and give him actual coaching advice so he can grow into a proper player (and adult) instead of this weird humiliation ritual he was forcing him to do to teach him a lesson. Then proceeding to return to his dugout and screaming out loud "AHHHHHH WHY DID I DO THAT I COULD'VE GOT THE TEAM SUSPENDED"

It's truly a one of a kind manga and it saddens me that everything else the mangaka has done is not fully translated yet, even Rokudenshi Blues is taking 20 years to translate and is still around 40 chapters away from being complete.

 No.4359

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I'm not sure I'd call this a favorite but had no idea where to post it tbh. Push Man by Tatsumi Yoshihiro. A series of bleak gekiga one shots originally published in doujinshi magazines, giving Tatsumi free reign to make whatever he liked. The majority of the stories are bleak slice of life stories with absurd endings, mostly fixated on Japan's working classes and the soft underbelly of crime and sexual perversion. I don't think I've read anything this cynical. Sewage workers pilfer the corpses of dead children dumped in sewers, a man falls in love with a hostess through the TV set only to commit murder-suicide, a student rapes a woman he's infatuated with for no apparent reason etc. The artwork is suitably dark too. Claustrophobic interiors, grimy workplaces, dirty slums, and chaotic streets. The world feels dark, hopeless, suffocating, a bleak contrast with the popular image of 60s Japan's economic miracle.

 No.4386

Not exactly normie tier I think, but I really love Saint Rosalind :)



 No.4072[Reply]

is jojo considered a retro anime? having in mind it originally became an anime back in 1993, even if its most famous version is the one from the 2000s.
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 No.4074

Huh, the OVA is older than I remember it being. I thought it was mid 90s or even later. People also seem to forget that the second part of the OVA (that adapted the first half of part 3) started releasing in 2000. So if you want to be a stickler you can only talk about half of the OVA adaptation.

 No.4083

Never really liked Jojo. Always found it a bit dull.

 No.4375

>>4072
Why do Japanese love vilifying blond people?

 No.4376

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>having in mind it originally became an anime back in 1993, even if its most famous version is the one from the 2000s.
The 2000s episodes are not the ones people actually refer to that often when people discuss the OVA episodes though as people mostly focus on the DIO fight which were the episodes produced in the 90s. Yes the series was effectively made in reverse production order, and this is a lot more obvious when you see that the episodes which are first chronologically are clearly digital.

Anyway, Y2k is the cut off, so I think discussing the manga for every part up and including 5 should be fine so long as it is the actual manga along with the N'doul, D'arby, and DIO episodes of the OVA. Even if by this point Jojo is something that people don't really think of as being retro that much from what I can tell in the jojo centric places. If anything discussing each part in its actual context during serialization would be one of the more interesting aspects to bring up.

 No.4381

>>4376
The most interesting thing during the serialization of part 2 was a fan actually sent an angry letter to Araki for retconning the fact that Zeppli didn't have any kids to be able to have a grandson like Caesar. The original jump magazine versions had it be that he stated that he had no children



 No.4368[Reply]

What do u guys think about Angel Cop? for me, its the best stuff Ive seen in that genre.

 No.4377

>>4368
Unfortunately besides the violence the only thing I truly remember is the jew rant in the final episode. Though even without the rant I think I'd still rank it highly, even when compared to the other high violence OVAs of the 90s.

 No.4378

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>>4368

I think you are missing out if you didnt watch the dub first.



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 No.163[Reply]

Often overlooked, I think there's a lot of good retro anime based on historical events that get often overlooked. Let's have a thread about them.
I'll start with Ai no Wakakusa Monogatari, adapted from the 1868 novel Little Women about the lives of four sisters during the American Civil War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UUpcpiSUak
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 No.4270

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>>4267
Seems like the title was popularized in Japan by an old film and book translation. And the youtube video OP posted is yet another adaptation lol, a special from 1980.
I wonder if Wakakusa no Charlotte's title was a nod to the book. It fits that show though.

 No.4371

I'm again going to bump this finely-aged thread to post my thoughts about Ai no Wakakusa Monogatari (the Little Women anime from 1987) now that I've finished watching it (very slowly over the course of like half a year). As one would expect from a 48 episode show based on a 150 year old book, it's pretty slow and maybe "quaint". Back in the 70's-80's shows like this were a lot more common, I think, because anime creators at the time would've grown up reading the foreign novel's they're based on. A few obvious examples: Anne of Green Gables, Dog of Flanders, Little Lord Fauntleroy (which appears as an ad at the end of this show). It's not surprising that today without much exposure to the source material or interest in shows longer than 13 episodes, that they're not so popular.

Relatedly, Little Women wasn't one of the books they made me read in school, so I knew very little about it when I watching this. If I ever read the OG novels, and the universe hasn't died from old age before I finish it, maybe I'll come back and do a proper comparison. One of the notable differences I can point to based on my shallow knowledge is about the Character Hannah. She's the maid crying in my video here >>4267. In the OG novel, she's not black, Wikipedia says she's Irish, and most adaptations follow suit. I figure this would be a point of contention for some, but the story was always very much about the northern perspective during the Civil War, and the history of slavery was probably especially interesting to Japanese people.

Too, The Japanese perspective of American culture and history was a point of interest for me. They get so much right I kind of assume that the part which are "wrong" are intentional just to level with a comparatively disinterested audience For instance, the true Wapanese here will know that snowmen in Japan are typically built with 2 spheres (like this "8"), while in America they're built with 3. Sure enough in episode 23, Amy makes an American style snowman. Jo bowing like no American ever would (see image), is an opposite example that's really funny to me.

 No.4372

>>4371
One problem with watching this show as an English native is that the translations available leave much to be desired. The first 10 episodes you can find on nyaa are good, after that the they were often humorously erroneous. I was genuinely laughing during this scene when Jo randomly starts speaking Arabic (according to Google-translate she's saying: "I'll take care of it — with pleasure"). But by combining my solid knowledge of English and 弱い knowledge of Japanese I still managed to enjoy it.

 No.4373

>>4372
I feel the art style largely speaks for itself, I described it as "Ghibli-esque" here >>4267. One of the names you might recognize is Yoshifumi Kondō. Just a year after working as the character designer and key animator for this show he'd go on to do similar work on Grave of the Fireflies, Kiki's Delivery Service, Only Yesterday and Porco Rosso, among others. The largely one-tone shading is something you don't see much in anime after the 80's, this clip is one of a few that's 2 tone. Working on a television budget, I figure they traded detailed shading in exchange for the smoother animation.

 No.4374

>>4373
Someone could make a "Jo falling over" compilation with this show. I believe her being clumsy is true to the novel. Cheers to the 2 anons who actually read this.



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 No.4279[Reply]

What do you think of Yumeji Tanima’s Scream Theater?

 No.4280

i have not heard of this but it does look very cool

 No.4282

>>4279
I see you too were recommended

 No.4370

I only really liked the first story but its style is unmatched. It feels like motion comics but anime.



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