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 No.727[Reply]

Not sure if it needs a thread but it's not like we're overflowing with discussion here ;), still I recently started watching the original HxH anime from 1999. I have never actually watched/read any of HxH and all I know of it was that it's permanently on hiatus, that cat girl (or boy?) that everyone posts a lot and the designs of the MC's. I decided to give it a shot for no real reason and so far I've been enjoying it.

I've watched YYH last year and enjoyed that as well. I found Season 1 of YYH to be good, 2 to be great the first half of 3 to be fantastic and then it kinda falls off after Sensui is introduced which was a shame, but it's nice to know that Togashi hasn't lost it with HxH.

I will say the first couple of episodes were...fine, I'm still not entirely sure what the plot is. Sure, Gon is trying to find his father and that's the goal but the whole idea of Hunters just seem odd. The fact Gon and that other hunter in the first episode were seen hunting animals and Gon wants to become a hunter kind of makes you think Hunter's are animal hunters, but then they add several characters who don't really fit that niche at all which makes the term "Hunter" kind of confusing. I guess it's more like a catchall term for someone who is exceptional and reliable in everything and thus the guy you go to for troubles, like an official bounty hunter or mercenary.

Character wise, I enjoy them a lot.What surprises me the most about this show was that I expected Gon to be the main part of the whole show and everyone else to sort of be secondary characters who don't really interact with one another since it's about Gon and his story, but it's actually pretty cool to see Leorio and Kurapika be together a lot and see their histories and helping each other out and such. I also like how Gon and Killua have a really normal friendship. They basically act like kids their age would act if they were friends. Which is very surprising since I thought Killua would be very stoic and not want to be friends with Gon but he opened up pretty damn quickly to him. Hell their dynamic feels like the other way around. Killua should be the MC and Gon is the friend who helps him out of his shell, but it's not like that at all.

I'm currently on episode 27 and the final part of the Hunter exam. I found the first section (running) to be a bit lacklusterPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.3217

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Shameless shilling is shameless, but I have been operating an episode-by-episode 1999 Hunter x Hunter for a few months. Essentially I just slowly talk about each episode, what they do differently, and how they might contribute to 1999's overall alternative take on the material.
https://kurorosanime.tumblr.com/ (not a webmaster so blogposting is easier to do here)

I've made a few interesting discoveries while doing this- primarily in contrasting how Gon and Killua get characterized here in comparison to the manga, but also getting way more information on the alt ending that even more dedicated Japanese fans didn't know (entirely thanks to making a thread about it at the right time on 4/a/).

 No.3235

>>3217
Interesting.

 No.3304

>>3217
Based. Will read later.

 No.3318

>>3212
Nen is complicated to understand in both versions. But at least in 1999 you don't see a bunch of badly made censorship. Although the main reason why 1999's better is just the great amount of love put into every episode. Is a great ride from start to finish.

 No.3422

>>727
Its been years since I watched HxH 99. I've been meaning to do a rewatch one of these days since its a genuinely good show, adaptation, and directed by the great Kazuhiro Furuhashi.

Gonna reply to the points I find interesting so bear with me lol.
>who don't really fit that niche at all which makes the term "Hunter" kind of confusing
That is part of what maks HxH great. The title of "hunter" can mean anything and so allows Togashi to explore a variety of genres and settings. Hunters aren't constraint by expectations like other archetypes are like pirates or ninjas.
>and thus the guy you go to for troubles, like an official bounty hunter or mercenary.
That is one of many types of Hunters, yeah. In fact, I believe Togashi was partially inspired by the video game series Arc the Lad when it came to the conception of the manga since ideas and characters like Hunters, mode of transport and even Gon's father all look lifted straight out of Arc the Lad.
>What surprises me the most about this show was that I expected Gon to be the main part of the whole show
Yep, that is another great quality of HxH. The world isn't centered around the protagonist. Characters can and will interact heavily with each other and have a significant influence on the plot with or without Gon. He is only one kid after all. I also view Gon more like vehicle to see the world and characters from his perspective since I often find the seconary characters to be more interesting and better written. Not that its a bad thing, Gon is a very good shonen protagonist all things considered.
>and not want to be friends with Gon but he opened up pretty damn quickly to him.
The 1999 show actually somewhat changes their interaction. In the manga, it was Killua who introduces himself to Gon and seeks friendship since that is whole character early on, wanting to bond with others. Meanehile 1999 changes it to having Gon introducing himself to Killua. Its not really "bad" but I do prefer how the manga does it since lets Killua be more proactive.
>The fourth section (battleship) was also REALLY good,
Its basically an anime exclusive filler arc but a damn good one, especially since it gives the later phase more tension.
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 No.3418[Reply]

Does "Obscure Cel Anime" even exist anymore? I feel like I've seen everything.

 No.3419

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>>3418
There's thousands upon thousands of tv specials, films, OVA, etc from 1970-2001. Unless you are very specifically obsessively collecting these rips and watching all of them then, no, it's not possible. There were so many thousands of OVA especially and most of them are forgotten about.

A lot never even got DVD releases since they are from companies that went under, or are obscure enough no one has cared enough.

Do you follow Lonelychaser, Kineko, Oprhan and others? Pretty much all of those are new to me.

I thought I knew the OVA era, but I had only seen the dozens of most notable. Truth is, most of these are pretty forgettable or cliche as well so you are not missing much. The big famous series all got DVD/BD releases, so everything else is the shit even Japan doesn't care about.

 No.3420

Idk, what's your reference frame for "obscure"? Because to the wider anime fandom, all but a few dozen titles from before 2000 are hella obscure. Uchuu Senkan Yamato ranks at #4304 most popular on MAL with 30K members, only a third of those listing it as completed. Most modern anime fans didn't know what Urusei Yatsura was before the remake.
If you're into cel anime, those are the most obvious shows in the world of course. But when was the last time you heard something about Skyers 5, Wakakusa no Charlotte, Rainbowman, Moeru Onii-san or Teki wa Kaizoku? There are a few hundred people outside of Japan who care about these titles. They're obscure, a niche within a niche within a niche. This is also reflected in how many titles remain untranslated. Having been available for decades but not having an English translation isn't exactly a sign of popularity.
And then there's the stuff that isn't even in the databases of course. People are still digging up new stuff with some regularity, be it educational anime, virtually unknown OVAs, weird local stuff, whatever. Oh, and the anime that's just lost. Most pre-1945 anime is lost forever, so those early cel works (a lot of the very early films are from before cels became standard) are forever obscured.

So yeah, most of cel anime is obscure. And even if you're in the know, there's still more obscure titles to dig into.

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>>3420
If they haven't bothered with a modern DVD/BD release, it's probably obscure. Though there's a slow steady trickle of new BD releases of old series.

Did anyone give a shit about Kentauros no Densetsu? It's not offensive, but it's not very good either and the art and animation are ho-hum. This is very typical of these obscure OVA/Film from this era. One thing I do appreciate though, is that the subject matter seems way more varied. Oh yeah, manga about bikers and turn that into an animated film about bikers. Would anything like this get made at all? I strongly get the vibe that this was meant to be a live action film from the way the script is written and how it's directed. Probably couldn't secure funding, so a cheap animated film was made.

https://myanimelist.net/anime/17339/Kentauros_no_Densetsu


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 No.739[Reply]

Kanashimi No Belladonna (1973) is a masterpiece of tragic/erotic/psychedelic animation directed by Eiichi Yamamoto. Jeanne is a peasant who gets raped by a noble and becomes a witch; based on/inspired by La Sorcière by Jules Michelet, a treatise in the history of witchcraft. Noted for its experimental artstyle, bizarre visuals and its connection to Western classical art works like Klimt and the cubist movement, it's a unique piece of art with a moving narrative and breathtaking moments on screen.
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 No.769

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>>747
Char's Counterattack (1988) by Yoshiyuki Tomino is the culmination of the original Gundam saga which began with 0079, marking the final conflict of the fourteen-year rivalry between the characters Amuro Ray and Char Aznable.

 No.770

>>761
What's really interesting to me is that the Red Spectacles is sort of filmed like an anime in live action. Movement is deliberately limited, the backgrounds are flat, camera tricks are anime-style... It's pretty neat.

 No.3389

some of these are boring though.

 No.3393

>>739
Shoujo Tsubaki (1992) by Hiroshi Harada, bad online discourse aside, it's a unique film that's rare in anime and is tapping into Japanese underground and wears its influences on its sleeves like Shūji Terayama films, Japanese theater, 1900's art, etc. It's ashamed the movie (and manga) are reduce to just shock content when it's much more than that while it meant to be shocking to the viewer in a exploitation way, it's still has themes and direction that make it above just an exploitation film.

 No.3400

>>760
And old opinion I came across was that for the second movie it’s an amazing animated spectacle but a terrible lupin movie, haven’t seen it yet myself but have watched mystery of mamo


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 No.315[Reply]

Self explanatory. It's fine if characters are featured, but try chose shots focused on the background.

I'll start with some from Tokimeki Tonight.
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 No.355

>>354

 No.356

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I don't know if the second counts.

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Oh nice, I was gonna make a new thread for these. Yes, Masion hsa some nice backgrounds.


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 No.1109[Reply]

Anyone here collect anime cels? Or dougas/gengas? My collection is pretty small so far, pic related is my cel and douga of Yuumura Kirika from Noir.

I'm actually looking for a good UV-blocking frame for it, anyone know of a good one that's about the needed size? (my douga measured to be about 10.5x9.5 so I'm guessing the cel is about the same)
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Not a collector myself, but I did (vaguely) recently get to see some on museum display

 No.3374

>>2794
I really want to get some Plastic Little cels with boobs in them but there’s one german autist that buys them all lol.

 No.3376

>>3374

I know the one you mean, heh.

 No.3379

I don't own any cell but I think cool lot of the old website that sell them are still up.
>>2620
>>2630
It's funny on eBay I've seen fake cells of modern shows, I guess it's a novelty thing.

 No.3380

>>3379

Most of that seems to be purely promotional and not intended to be deceptive.


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 No.2695[Reply]

City Hunter is the greatest anime of all time. Unknown to both waps and normies, it is only for patricians. It also has the greatest soundtrack of any anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r107W1YXrSM
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 No.3222

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>>3204
>discotek
I havent downloaded any anime in years, where can i watch this show?all the sites i knew from a decade ago have been purged or 404'd.

 No.3223

>>3222
>where can i watch this show?
all of it should be up on nyaa.si

 No.3224

>>3223
Thanks anon,i know i may sound like a retard but the last time i watched anime, i would just go to animetake and it pretty much had everything.

 No.3377

>>3170
>City Hunter 3's OP has her doing shit I'd LOVE to see her do in the show
Yeah, that great intro really set up something that never happened. Kind of odd how different it is from the other intros, with its narrative.

Although I don't agree that Kaori should've been using her hammer in actual fights. It belongs to the comedic sections of City Hunter, which are sharply, and loveably, divided from the serious ones. I think I can vaguely remember her trying to use it once and immediately gets dommed by a criminal, as a kind of meta joke about the hammer not actually being real. It also fits in with the hyper-masculinised men and hyper-feminised women of the 80s aesthetic. Kaori is the frail, innocent woman that needs to be saved by the strong, heroic man. In commercial American tv and film from the era this may have been vulgar and shallow, but it works in City Hunter.

>the less said about the amount of children/teens that fall for him the better. While those were some pretty funny jokes of desperately trying to not seem like a pedo, it felt like it happened WAYYYYY too often.
I think the same reason City Hunter could happily include gay people and transvestites was the same reason it could show Ryo lusting after teenage girls. It is completely without an agenda and is simply motivated by Hojo's objectivity and desire to create an entertaining world. Sometimes he uses the ridiculously masculine traits of transvestites for comic relief, another times he uses the passableness of a transvestite for comedic relief. I didn't see anything wrong with the many teen romance subplots; it is typical of Japanese culture and Ryo always ends up running away from them anyway.

 No.3378

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>>3377
Yeah that's fair about Kaori. I was just trying to spitball some ideas here to make her more than what she is. She's a terrible shot with a gun from what I recall and the few times she does try and do things by herself other people have to help her and it's a real shame she can't have some moments to shine. Even a bit of luck could take her a long way with a few clients and that's pretty much all I wanted for her where she can handle herself but obviously gets overwhelmed and requires Ryo's help in the end especially near the end of the series.

As for the lolicon angle, I actually quite enjoyed those jokes. They were always pretty funny since everyone can understand *not* wanting to seem like a pedo and it's made even worse by the fact it's always the kids/teens initiating it and Ryo desperately trying to remedy the situation.

I also did find the use of gay and trans people to be surprising as well. Ryo frequents gay bars, dresses as a woman in a few episodes and jokingly convinces other people Kaori is a man much to her displeasure. It feels both progressive and mocking but I honestly liked that aspect of it. You never really knew what kind of angle each episode would take and it was always pretty funny.


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 No.2855[Reply]

Isn't the whole point of this site about retro anime? Y'all need to start posting more retro anime!

 No.2856

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>>2855

Ive been busy.

 No.3126

>>3125
Nigga doesn't know about the glory of Precure.

 No.3127

>>2855
Well, I'm watching fancy Lala. it starts off a bit weak, but begins to channel what was so good about the '80s Pierrot Mahou Shoujo shows as it goes on: that dreamy kind of surreal take on magic and allowing it to interact with believable slice of life scenarios, and like Creamy Mammy it has the idol element front and center.Occasionally the animation and storyboarding gets quite strong as well , It's not really on the level of the '80s shows, but it's not unsatisfying that regard.

What about you, anon?

 No.3366

>>2855
Irony of this thread now.

 No.3367

>>3366
Much irony
Damn, I only have nu-anime screencaps and images, so I can't even post a relevant image. What a shame!


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 No.2813[Reply]

Cowboy Bebop is boring. Outlaw Star has cute girls, Taoist magic, and intergalactic space temples and better action scenes. Yet we we're deprived of a sequel! Why do people even like Cowboy Bebop so much? Its not even that good! Well okay that's just annoyingly contrarian, its a good show just not as great at the hype train makes it out to be.

Legend of the Galactic Heroes is also overrated. The battle scenes are absurd. How can one man command so many vessels? It makes no sense. The average admiral can't even command one battle group properly but in LOTGH they can command hundreds of ships at once? No communications breakdown? Its like playing a crappy Paradox strategy game, having billion units, and realizing your brain doesn't have the mental processing power to manage them all but somehow they can do it. The story is Star Wars level Evil Nazi Coded Empire vs Space America. Its like choosing between slitting your throat or jumping into a fire.

Serial Experiments Lain is a great show but why isn't there more love for Texhnolyze?

Evengelion is good but overrated. Everybody knows this already. People are just mad at how popular it is.
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 No.3352

>>3347
bepop was constantly promoted, and shown more often. outlaw star was ran then disapeared. in toonami adverts you might see little cuts from outlaw star scenes that looked cool but nothing that actuall indicated which show it was from if you werent familiar with it. But everyone knew bebop because they never let you forget about it.

 No.3356

>>3351
>Simarily this is why the show wasn't very popular in japan

It's TV ratings in Japan were actually quite good.

"Between them, late night slots and WOWOW accounted for half of the ten 10k+ hits from that same 1997-2000 time period; Brain Powerd, Cowboy Bebop, Hand Maid May, Initial D, and To Heart."

https://animetics.net/2014/09/29/timeslot-history-1994-2000-wrapup/

 No.3358

>>3356
Well that's certainly true from a by view basis but I mean over all. For example, bebop ultimately got 1 series, 1 movie, 3 volumes and then done if I am not mistaken. The show wasn't really popular enough to push the series forward to more success. It was a novelty that people moved on from. Compare that to to-heart. Directly after the tv show, a manga was spawned and ultimately the series got a 2nd game. Now compare that to the beast that is Initial D. Initial D is still making new content, and currently is at like 5 tv series, 2 ovas, 8 movies, and 48 volumes of manga.

 No.3360

>>3358
Right, but most anime in general weren't large franchises like that, and there is more to the calculus when it comes to sequels than just popularity, like the consumer habits of the fanbase. Niche shows with a fanbase that will buy lots of merch can make up the difference, for example. Initial D and To Heart are also adaptations of other media, where Bebop is an original, so fairly different context.

 No.3363

>>3348
I don't really see how Cowboy Bebop characters are "deeper" than Outlaw Star. Just because one has all this melancholic jazzy aura doesn't mean is deeper. Outlaw Star is stronger in its vitalistic themes that just parading around navel gazing about whatever ghost of the past. And I think its themes resonate better through the power of will and lifting yourself up.

>>3352
Yeah, that sounds more plausible. Gene is a hyper-masculine character, he fights, he grabs butts, he's gallant and refuses to beat woman. Totally the opposite of the type of character that became mainstream after that and makes cat ladies go "oh nooes" while also wetting their panties.


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 No.1044[Reply]

OOOHOHOHO
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 No.3211

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>tfw no amelia love since it was posted
this thread needs some JUSTICE

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>>3211
BASED AmeliaCHAD

 No.3227

>>1044
>>1046
>>1047
I want to make Nago go OH OH OH OHHHH

 No.3228

>>1084
You know how in slayers, there is a multiverse composed of 4 worlds, slayers being one of those worlds and Lost Universe being one of the other? Tenchi muyo is like that but cranked up to 11. Every show is basically it's own dimension/seperate universe that is being manipulated by the three goddess's that created reality (3 of the girls from the show).

So each show tends to have its own theme and is a different genre. The most dnd/slayers like fantasy tenchi muyo would probably be "Tenchi Muyo! War on Geminar" also known as "Isekai no Seikishi Monogatari" which is about tenchi's nephew being sent to a fantasy world called geminar where he has to pilot fantasy knight mecha and fight with abunch of fantasy races. But its closer to escaflowne than slayers. Either way, thats a 2000s show. In the 90s one, I think universe is the best. But its more like lost universe than slayers, it's modern fantasy scifi with a jp twist.

 No.3357

>>1072
>Nadesico, Excel Saga are unmemorable proto-harems
I know this is three years ago but this is such an insane opinion I have to say something. Nadesico does the subversive mecha telling otaku to go outside thing better than Eva and Excel Saga is an exemplar of deranged Y2K otaku comedy. Neither of them are harems, neither of them are close to harems.

Slayers was memorable to a strain of 90s wapanesemer because it was fucking funny. Pomp and pomposity aren't the only things worthwhile with older works.


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 No.3302[Reply]

Modern anime is dogshit.

Let's discuss why.

 No.3308

>>3302
Misty is cute.

 No.3313

I think the point of /cel/ is talking about old anime you like, not to just shit on new anime. Especially since that's likely to bring people to defend it which will make the discussion be about new anime, which isn't the topic of the board.

 No.3337

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👑==Things that made retro anime visuals so good==👑
>natural linework variation 📝
>texture from grain and paint 🌟
>real light effects ✨
>hand painted backgrounds 🎨
>great contrast 🌃

 No.3344

>>3313
This, this thread should be pruned and is otherwise off topic


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