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List of Mandatory Classic Movies anon 02/01/2022 (Tue) 09:41:00 No. 739 [Reply]
Kanashimi No Belladonna (1973) is a masterpiece of tragic/erotic/psychedelic animation directed by Eiichi Yamamoto. Jeanne is a peasant who gets raped by a noble and becomes a witch; based on/inspired by La Sorcière by Jules Michelet, a treatise in the history of witchcraft. Noted for its experimental artstyle, bizarre visuals and its connection to Western classical art works like Klimt and the cubist movement, it's a unique piece of art with a moving narrative and breathtaking moments on screen.
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>>760 Being a Disney movie is what gives Cog's Castle its timeless energy. Liking Mamo because it's edgier makes you sound like a child.
>>766 If I want to watch a Disney movie, I'll watch a Disney movie. Hell, I'll even turn on a Ghibli film. Those films are great and there's nothing wrong with them, many are classics for a reason. Cagliostro isn't just a Disney film, it's a not very interesting Disney film. Sure there are great moments, but it's far from the best Lupin film and its far from the best Miyazaki film. If you wanted a new Cowboy Bebop film and it was a goofy Disney kid's film, it'd be more than understandable if you didn't really care for it and wanted something more adult. I'm not sure how Lupin is any different in that regard.
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>>767 I'm a Fuma Clan Conspiracy and Legend of the Gold Of Babylon man personally.
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>>747 Char's Counterattack (1988) by Yoshiyuki Tomino is the culmination of the original Gundam saga which began with 0079, marking the final conflict of the fourteen-year rivalry between the characters Amuro Ray and Char Aznable.
>>761 What's really interesting to me is that the Red Spectacles is sort of filmed like an anime in live action. Movement is deliberately limited, the backgrounds are flat, camera tricks are anime-style... It's pretty neat.

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Loli cat girl animuz Deus 04/25/2022 (Mon) 22:27:55 No. 735 [Reply]
I am in dire need of old generic loli cat girl animes. Would you guys help me out?
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Interested in this too. I didn't think this was a trope until the early 2000s. Anything earlier?
>>736 Di Gi Charat was 1999, I think that was the first anime ABOUT loli cat girls I know there's loli cat girls in a variety of 1990s media but they're usually side characters.
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Geobreeders is from 1998. 90's OVA nudity warning, the cat girl's design is top tier though.

HxH 1999 anon 09/26/2022 (Mon) 08:10:09 No. 727 [Reply]
Not sure if it needs a thread but it's not like we're overflowing with discussion here ;), still I recently started watching the original HxH anime from 1999. I have never actually watched/read any of HxH and all I know of it was that it's permanently on hiatus, that cat girl (or boy?) that everyone posts a lot and the designs of the MC's. I decided to give it a shot for no real reason and so far I've been enjoying it. I've watched YYH last year and enjoyed that as well. I found Season 1 of YYH to be good, 2 to be great the first half of 3 to be fantastic and then it kinda falls off after Sensui is introduced which was a shame, but it's nice to know that Togashi hasn't lost it with HxH. I will say the first couple of episodes were...fine, I'm still not entirely sure what the plot is. Sure, Gon is trying to find his father and that's the goal but the whole idea of Hunters just seem odd. The fact Gon and that other hunter in the first episode were seen hunting animals and Gon wants to become a hunter kind of makes you think Hunter's are animal hunters, but then they add several characters who don't really fit that niche at all which makes the term "Hunter" kind of confusing. I guess it's more like a catchall term for someone who is exceptional and reliable in everything and thus the guy you go to for troubles, like an official bounty hunter or mercenary. Character wise, I enjoy them a lot.What surprises me the most about this show was that I expected Gon to be the main part of the whole show and everyone else to sort of be secondary characters who don't really interact with one another since it's about Gon and his story, but it's actually pretty cool to see Leorio and Kurapika be together a lot and see their histories and helping each other out and such. I also like how Gon and Killua have a really normal friendship. They basically act like kids their age would act if they were friends. Which is very surprising since I thought Killua would be very stoic and not want to be friends with Gon but he opened up pretty damn quickly to him. Hell their dynamic feels like the other way around. Killua should be the MC and Gon is the friend who helps him out of his shell, but it's not like that at all. I'm currently on episode 27 and the final part of the Hunter exam. I found the first section (running) to be a bit lackluster and the second section (cooking) to be worse, but it REALLY picked up by the third section (trick tower) which I wished was longer and had them dealing with more psychological aspects over just fights, plus that 50 hour wait in the room could've been a really fun filler episode. The fourth section (battleship) was also REALLY good, a tough situation and a time limit where everyone had to work together felt really engaging to watch, especially with how it ended. The fifth section (badge hunting) was also quite engaging, giving Gon the task of grabbing Hisoka's badge was great even if we spent around two episodes watching him train and stalk him. A shame Ponzu didn't stick around, I liked her. I still have no idea what this series is even going to be about, sure Gon finding his dad, Kurapika getting revenge(?), Leorio becoming a doctor and Killua having...fun? I'm sure Hisoka is going to throw multiple wrenches in their plans but otherwise it's quite refreshing to not really know where this is going (although I have been spoiled on how Gon's arc ends). Anyhow, it probably didn't need a thread but I wanted to throw my thoughts out onto the board. Will probably update it in a few days when I'm nearing the end. Watching 4 episodes a day is fun when the show is actually quite good, as opposed to trudging my way through it like I did for other longer shows.
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>>729 Fair enough, but to me it still comes off as magic powers where anything can happen. At least when it's established for the character I actually don't mind it that much. Currently on the dodgeball part of Greed Island and it's interesting to see Nen be used in the way it has been (even if it starts with "Woah, he made 7 copies of himself using Nen to play dodgeball") since a few of the characters have their Nen abilities already established like Hisoka with his Bungee Gum and using it to grab the ball from afar, and currently Gon with his RPS powers. I actually don't mind Nen being used as a stand power, it feels fine to give people a unique power they can rely on in times with it's own strengths/weaknesses. I just find the whole "I'll use Nen to turn this pack of cards into a GUN" or whatever to be very odd since it just feels like Nen can be used to do anything by anyone even if there is a set of established rules in there. It just feels like it can be used to explain away everything. I know I wasn't really paying attention when it was all explained because I just found the whole idea boring and I didn't think it would've become a huge part of the show so I guess I'm suffering for it. I also didn't know HxH was going to establish this at all, since I really enjoyed seeing everyone have natural abilities in the Hunter exam that are now being mostly sidelined for them to develop Nen. >Gon using zetsu to silence his presence while hunting Hisoka...ect it all feels very real and tangible In the Hunter exam or was this somewhere else? Gon didn't know of Nen at the time, unless you mean when they tracked the Spiders in Yorkshin?
>>730 >In the Hunter exam or was this somewhere else? Yeah in the Hunter eaxm. He was suppressing his Nen without knowing what Nen was which got Hisoka very excited. Killua's assassination technique is also supposed to be Nen but I am not sure how that goes. That's the whole thing about Nen people sometimes use it without even knowing they are doing so, these are the geniuses and super atheletes in the HunterxHunter world, special people. It's just willpower and dedication/extreme concentration manifesting as an actual physical power and I find that fascinating idea. Yeah Hatsu will be used in a stand-esque way where you come up with whatever power and call it a nen ability and it gets worse with that aspect as the series progress but there's still enough of the rules being applied that it don't feel like total bullshit. The categories especially are very important. Like you say the Dodgeball starts with bullshit "let me just copy" myself but then you have to respect the rules, emission is not efficient, enhancement makes you more powerful, In can hide nen....ect You balance the bullshit with the logic to create fun and I think Togashi did it well, and there are many interesting uses of nen later on.
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>>731 >>730 I am not a super HxH fan but I like it enough and thought Nen is great and more interesting and developped than most typical battle-shounen powers. I was refreshing up on Nen after reading this thread and it's interesting to even look at something as basic as the category hexagon. At top you have Enahnacers most basic use of Nen basically just outputting Aura, you go right you have transmutation, giving the aura different properties, next to it is conjuring, manifesting the aura into physical objects they are similar to each other but conjuring is further away from enhancement and feels like a logical progression to Tranmutation. On the left of enhancement you have a different application of Aura, Emission, sending the Aura away from your body, further on is Manipulation using the aura that's seperated from your body to manipulate objects or people, again logical progression and it's feels natural that the further you go the harder it is to master the other category.
Sorry for the late reply, some stuff got in the way but I did finish HxH. I found the ending of HxH to be quite good, when I figured out why they brought the Accompany card I was actually pleasantly surprised and enjoyed how the 1999 version had a pretty decent ending when HxH still goes on until today. It's a shame they could only bring three cards and used them up at the end, I would've loved if they kept a certain, literal ace up their sleeve of an Angel's Breath or something for when a fight was wayyyyy too difficult for them. I enjoyed the final fight with Bomber but I do think it was a bit lackluster to have a random bad guy introduced at the end of the series to be the final bad guy defeated by Gon, still a great fight though. >>731 >Yeah in the Hunter eaxm. He was suppressing his Nen without knowing what Nen was which got Hisoka very excited. Alright, that's pretty cool I like that. >Like you say the Dodgeball starts with bullshit "let me just copy" myself but then you have to respect the rules, emission is not efficient, enhancement makes you more powerful, In can hide nen....ect Honestly, after you explained Nen and I actually started to pay attention to what was happening in the show I started to enjoy it more. I originally thought it was bullshit powers that were limited by whatever Togashi wanted to limit them by, but after finishing the dodgeball fight and the fight with The Bomber I finally saw that it was a lot more deeper than it seemed. When he split into 7 copies he didn't really have any other ability beyond that, he was just powerful himself and once I noticed that I enjoyed the fight a bit more because he was VERY powerful but that was the limit of his power which Gon, Killua and Hisoka were able to bypass. Also, Hisoka being on their side for a bunch of episodes was great. >>732 >I was refreshing up on Nen after reading this thread and it's interesting to even look at something as basic as the category hexagon. In a way, I wish Nen was explained either during fights or in a way that wasn't so God damn boring. When they were explaining this hexagon I really thought it wouldn't be that important but I guess I was wrong. Reading the explanation in this thread was honestly much better than how it was done in the anime imo, but that could've just been me.

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>>733 Well there's always the Chimera Ant arc which many consider to be the peak of the series. But I would say there's no rush if you enjoyed the experience. take a year or so off from the series dwell on it allow yourself to forget it and then maybe watch HxH 2011 from the beginning to the end, it does end on a much better note than Greed Island.

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anon 06/02/2022 (Thu) 13:51:15 No. 714 [Reply]
What are the essential pre-2k hyperviolent anime?
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>>721 I think ninja scroll has the perfect amount of edge and that's why it works best out of Kawajiri films. Wicked City feels like a hentai and you can't take it seriously, VHD is too tame which as a result makes the experience lack weight
>>722 100% percent of Kawajiri's catalog is pure unadulterated quinoa, your criticisms are utter nonsense
>>723 He's nothing more than a b-movie director nut that's not a bad thing necessairly
>>724 If you're looking for anime ultraviolence, you're looking for B-movie schlock most of the time. If you want unsexy violence, Be Invoked exists.
>>722 I don't think that the sexual elements of Wicked City work against it. The issue is more so the old man acting as a comic relief character that kind of breaks with the general tone it goes for. That and the kind of sappy conclusion. I think it has Kawajiri's sense of color design and iconic imagery at its best though. >>723 >>724 >>725 Japan has a tradition of visual experimentation and artistic accomplishment in their B-films, this naturally extends to anime as well. To be a B-film should never been seen as derogatory anyways, they're quite literally just more niche low budget film that would be played alongside with "A-films" as a warm up theaters. It doesn't have anything to do with actual quality.

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Shuffle anon 09/13/2022 (Tue) 05:05:08 No. 1427 [Reply]
I've been watching this 2005 VN adaptation classic. Outside of the gimmick of the three dimensions coming together, which gives us some demon and god girls, it plays the harem tropes really straight, it probably invented some of them, but it manages to land it all well enough and not feel tired. That's something I've noticed about trend setting shows, even if a ton of shows copy them later the originals still manage to feel fresh. Sometimes the female characters in these shows can come off as way too big of doormats or cute/silly to the point of being awkward to me, especially in Key adaptations, but this manages to not take things too far in that regard. Not sure who best girl is yet. The art is generally pretty to look at. This era of anime design kind of resembles some of the appeal of those simple early 80s TV designs you would see in comedy shows like Sasuga Sarutobi or Urusei Yatsura, likely incredibly fun for the animators to draw and well suited for expressive motion in their simplicity. Which isn't quite lived up to here, unfortunately. The drawings are strong, and the motion is fine, but I would have hoped for more in the way of stand out charismatic character acting or something a bit more interesting in the odd action scenes that come up. There was a really nice rotation in episode 6 that caught my eye, but I think a bit more on the animation front would have elevated the show. The storyboards are strong most of the time .Naoyuki Kuzuya impressed me the most with his boards on episode 5, he had been active since the late 80s, and the veteran touches are very visible, lots of nice deep staging and good angles. The show also has a signature style of cut ins that are color coded for specific girls, which is a touch I always love, either in a restrained manner like this or the kind of wild stuff directors like Tomino do. I don't know if there are any Shuffle fans here, but who is best girl? Is the show going to surprise me? (though don't spoil it). Any other similar mid 00 Harems at a similar level of quality that don't get spoken of enough. I know this one was popular back in the day, but it seems to have faded into obscurity since then.
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It's been a very (very) long time since I played the VN and watched the show, but I remember who my favorite girl was, and there's a couple of things I can think of regarding the anime adaption that might surprise you. I can't say anything about either until you've seen it!
>>1431 7 episodes in and I like Asa the best. So far she seems to be the most multi-dimensional, I get a bit more from her than just "Rin is nice so I like him" like with the other girls so far. It helped that 7 has Keijo Gotou as animation director so the drawings and animation were all really good on an episode that focused on her.
>>1427 Well, I've finished Shuffle. I thought that it was a really good show. It usually looked really nice, the characters were endearing, their arcs worked well, and all the little threads tied together really well by the end. I also was happy that Rin chose well before the show was over and there was still more to deal with after that. Sia maybe needed a bit more time to shine but as far as adapting a VN that probably had way too much material to fully adapt it wasn't a bad job at all. Haven't seen that many Harem anime yet but this sets a pretty high bar.
>>1427 Lamune, Da Capo

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Zeta Gundam anon 06/06/2022 (Mon) 02:03:03 No. 677 [Reply]
Is this still the most soul crushing ending scene in anime? It is for me at least.
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>>680 It wasn't vague at all, if anything ZZ retroactively ruins the ending by having him recover from it in the end because "anime is supposed to be hapy :)" -Yoshiyuki Tomino (probably)
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>>679 When I first saw the ending of Texhnolyze (around 2005ish, I was still a young teenager), while the scene with Ran was unfolding I unconsciously dug my fingers into the skin of my other arm and drew blood. I was making the same facial expression of confusing and rage that Ichise was making and I started sweating and crying intensely. Then the scene that immediately followed afterwards with the insert song and I fucking bawled like a bitch. I threw up later that evening too. Not a single other anime or any other piece of media gave me such a visceral reaction, jesus christ. I haven't watched Texhnolyze since then and I don't want to watch it again.
>>682 Yeah I remember feeling this heavy hole that slowly drained everything. By then she really was the only part of that show left to hope for and when that was gone and the ending came I just felt empty. Powerful stuff, but it really gets the message of not putting your existence behind impermanent things across to the viewer.
Jinrou comes to mind for me ;_;
yeah this moment cemented Zeta gundam as one of my favourite anime. listening to this is melancholic https://youtu.be/oNYPryOqyGo

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anon 04/15/2022 (Fri) 05:05:31 No. 668 [Reply]
It's nearly easter, post bunnies.
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>>668 Madoka a cute
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for me, its ritsuko

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/nulum/ Reboot containment thread lumfren 10/21/2022 (Fri) 00:15:45 No. 1662 [Reply] [Last]
Discuss the reboot.
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>>1716 Yeah basically.
>Nurusei Yatsura does the drunk Lum episode >no Helen Sasano insert song Instantly inferior to the original
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The season finale was fun
>>1722 I'm surprised this even got a second season.
>>1722 It was pretty good, but I don't understand why they felt the need to change the ending. They could have preserved the original beauty contest ending and then inserted the original stuff after, we missed out on a nice Ataru/Lum moment when they did that

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Royal Space Force Theatrical Showings anon 10/18/2022 (Tue) 01:19:31 No. 658 [Reply]
So earlier today I was looking up if there was any news on Uru in Blue (hah, no), and found an article from August which mentioned that not only was Royal Space Force getting a 4K 35mm scan released on bluray soon, but that it would also have a theatrical re-release to coincide with this. I looked it up and the bluray is coming out on the 4th of November, but I can't find any more recent sources giving a date or locations for any screenings. Anyone have any more info? I'd really love to see this masterpiece on the big screen and I don't want to miss what's likely my only chance.
>>658 You sure it didn't just mean specifically in Japan?
>>659 The site says nothing about being just in Japan, and the fact that they specify "Original 1987 Voice Version" seems to indicate that they AREN'T showing a dub, which would be a strange thing to clarify if it was just goint to be shown in Japan. The site: https://v-storage.bnarts.jp/anime/etc-anime/180313/
>>660 Maybe look up cinemas around your local area and see which ones showed anime in the past. It could be shown at one of those places? I know there used to be an cinema near my university that showed new anime movies when they released and I'd sometimes go to watch them, saw Lu over the Wall, Night is Short, Promare and Mirai no Mirai there and had a fun time with each of them. Not sure if they showed classics but they might've at some stage.
>>660 The "Original 1987 Voice Version" could also mean that they're not doing a redub (or using one if it's already been done) for the new release like what was done with Gunbuster for the theatrical release.

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The Cars of Urusei Yatsura. lumfren 10/19/2022 (Wed) 06:11:22 No. 1727 [Reply]
Cars from Urusei Yatsura. Post 'em
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Cars are lame, planes are much better
>>1730 No, I disagree. I fuckin' LOVE CARS. Now post UY cars.
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>>1730 RIP the brave Mendou pilots who died defending the Earth during the Tomobiki High School PTA Meeting of '82.
>>1733 This is a car thread sir. Make your own thread about pl*nes or j*ts somewhere else.

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