Tuned in to Retro Anime / Manga!

theres this subgenre i run into a lot of old school sci fi anime/manga with a mix of psychic battles, cyborgs with superpowers and general crazy chunni shit. think babel II and harmageddon. where did this sort of stuff come from and where did it go?

What does /cel/ make of Gen-Z who embrace retro anime and manga (hereafter referred to as "アニメや漫画") that came out before they were even born?

Its a real shame GeGeGe no Kitaro isn't widely known outside of Japan but it got me thinking, what other anime out there was huge in Japan but virtually unknown or overlooked by foreign audiences?

What's everyone's favorite episode of Patlabor? For me it's a tossup between one of the goofier episodes like the ones where they go into the gator labyrinth and SV2's Longest Day from the original OVA.

I've often seen people discuss Oniisama E and other retro shoujo manga like it as stories about lesbianism which praise its "representation" while at the same time faulting it for implying lesbianism is just a phase or in Rei's case it leads to death. So its somehow gay and homophobic and about homophobia at the same time. Lazy internet speculation gets even dumber when they see the sisterly relationship between Miya and Rei as homosexual incest. There's literally nothing in the manga or anime that points to that. Its just a sibling rivalry.

What Oniisama E actually shows are S kankei/class S relationships: romantic friendships between school girls that were seen as a prep phase for marriage with a guy. These were normal and socially acceptable in pre-war Japan and hyped up in women's literature. They aren't equivalent to lesbianism or proto-lesbian. In both the anime and the manga, the majority of the characters are also romantically involved with men and the same gender romances are almost always between older females and younger girls who meet in school. None of these girls are lesbian, they aren't exclusively attracted to women.

All of this stems from misinterpreting Japanese culture and taking things out of context. People wind up faulting another culture for not meeting their expectations. I figure what's really interesting about this is how the whole class S phenomenon shows us how romance didn't always operate by the hetero/homo dualism of the West and much of modern Japan and the weird cultural traditions that got sidelined by that dualism. There's something about shoving 21st century idpol onto a 1970s manga that pisses me off. Maybe I'm just being pedantic? Yeah Yeah Ranma Saotome is non binary despite that idea not even existing when Rumiko put pen to paper. I'm sick of it.

hi all,
this will be the thread for discussion on the weekly streams, hosted at https://cytu.be/r/wapstreams fridays at 21:00 UTC.
this week (tomorrow) we will be watching "Wata no Kuni Hoshi - The Star of Cottonland"
i haven't seen it before but it looks very nice!

Are we really supposed to believe that hardened soldiers are going to defy their superior officers, whom they've been conditioned to fear all their lives, to defect to an enemy they've been conditioned to hate all their lives, just for the sake of some shitty pop songs? That would be like the Norks or Talibans defecting to the United States in mass because of Taylor Swift. And why would anyone in that situation even give a shit about gay idol drama anyway? They're supposed to be fighting for their lives, stranded in the outer solar system millions of the nearest supply base, and yet they have not only the available resources but also the audience for this garbage?

Or that the chief archivist whose supposedly spent his entire life studying combat footage, wouldn't notice that a goddamn martial arts movie was clearly faked? Actually zentradi in general seem pretty dim, the infiltration team is able to speak perfect Japanese with no effort, but somehow remain clueless about every other aspect of Terran culture. They really should have been caught right away, especially since they acted like total buffoons and Hayase actually saw them in the miclone chambers.

The way they handle romance was also pretty dumb. At most civilian workplaces its frowned upon for officers to engage in relationships, let alone in the military. And then there's the whole romance between Max and Milia. "I tried to kill you an hour ago, let's get married!"Yeah, right.

How is this garbage considered a classic in any way? My eight year old sister could come up with a better mecha show.

A real hate letter. holy fuck.
Completely flipped off the anime.

Why are so many anime adaptions of old games in totally shit quality? You'd think there'd be at least some novel interest in remastering them?

found this old guide on viewing japanimation, it's a pretty interesting read
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retrogradeblog/albums/72157632566725176/with/8396654577/