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Overrated and underrated 90s Shows anon 10/6/24 (Sun) 17:31:32 No.2813 [Reply]

Cowboy Bebop is boring. Outlaw Star has cute girls, Taoist magic, and intergalactic space temples and better action scenes. Yet we we're deprived of a sequel! Why do people even like Cowboy Bebop so much? Its not even that good! Well okay that's just annoyingly contrarian, its a good show just not as great at the hype train makes it out to be.

Legend of the Galactic Heroes is also overrated. The battle scenes are absurd. How can one man command so many vessels? It makes no sense. The average admiral can't even command one battle group properly but in LOTGH they can command hundreds of ships at once? No communications breakdown? Its like playing a crappy Paradox strategy game, having billion units, and realizing your brain doesn't have the mental processing power to manage them all but somehow they can do it. The story is Star Wars level Evil Nazi Coded Empire vs Space America. Its like choosing between slitting your throat or jumping into a fire.

Serial Experiments Lain is a great show but why isn't there more love for Texhnolyze?

Evengelion is good but overrated. Everybody knows this already. People are just mad at how popular it is.

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anon 2/23/25 (Sun) 23:30:37 No.3119

>>2819
>Satoshi Kon had presonal feelings about how it negatively affected japanese culture
>>No, the film is not based on any criticism. If the audience get the impression from watching the film that the idol system in Japan is like that, I'm embarrassed. Of course I did research before making the film and I visited a number of these idol events, but I didn't see the kind of example that is used in the film. Also, to reveal behind-the-scenes secrets about the entertainment world was never my intention. I simply wanted to show the process of a young girl maturing, becoming confused because her old set of values gets shattered, but who is reborn as a mature being as a result of that. That's what I wanted to describe. But because I had to stick with the idea of an idol, the film came to talk about that particular world.

anon 2/24/25 (Mon) 15:15:36 No.3121

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>>3119
That's interesting but I don't think we have to be anchored to Satoshi Kon's intent to interpret Perfect Blue in our own way. Although this brings up other problems, like Western audiences inserting their own autistic value system into everything such that Ranma becomes non-binary or something and every Gibli movie is about Shinto and nature.

One thing I don't like about Perfect Blue is that it feels too optimistic. Mima recovers at the end, discovers the truth about the imposter, ends up pretty secure in her sense of self. But 21st cen. urban post-modern consumer life this doesn't really happen. We're all broken, mixed up, and confused, and we don't get an opportunity to fix ourselves like this. We're all disassociated, and anxious with a warped sense of reality. You can never find the real you. Its just endless insecurity with no resolution. I'd like to think that the ending where Mima looks in the mirror and says she's the real Mima is darker that it seems, like she's just falling for yet another image in the mirror.

anon 4/13/25 (Sun) 02:11:44 No.3165

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>>3119
Fair enough, I did say it was likely, not definite. I'm really only speculating here. Was more a fan of Paprika anyway.

>>3121
I'm pretty certain that was the point, and the whole idea of the film's end being optimistic is a deliberate falsity. It's a false optimistic ending where psychologically there's still deep trauma and damage lurking under the surface Mima deliberately avoids. Without spoiling the film, it sort of mirrors Taxi Driver, where the horror is despite what's happened, Travi is still himself, but with Perfect Blue Mima is bright and bubbly in her running away and denying the core issue.

anon 4/16/25 (Wed) 14:48:37 No.3189

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>>2813
>Why do people even like Cowboy Bebop so much?
It got the right exposure, and that largely determined popularity back in an era where we didn't have streaming and anime was less accessible.
It also resonates with a lot of people in the west because it is quite 'western' itself. It's kinda neo-noir, the characters are cowboys/bounty hunters but in space. A serviceable english dub for normalfrens. A fantastic soundtrack. It isn't surprising its popularity has endured

>why isn't there more love for Texhnolyze?
Because its slow and doesn't have the same aesthetic appeal and 'wtf' energy of Lain to keep people engaged.

anon 4/16/25 (Wed) 17:04:25 No.3194

>>3165
>>3121
Hi! I didn't like Perfect Blue's ending either. Not because it was too optimistic, honestly. I just didn't like the conclusion to the setup. As far as mysteries go, it felt like such a disappointing conclusion after all the mindbending stuff set up in the first part.

The whole "the other ugly person in the movie was secretly evil" felt like such a weak reveal. I know it was set up in that she was also an idol, but it felt really out of nowhere given the rest of the film.

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Classic anime music anon 1/9/22 (Sun) 18:34:09 No.1947 [Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Let's have a thread for pre-2000s anime music that you enjoy a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MGQpJq5KVs

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anon 8/13/24 (Tue) 04:02:41 No.2769

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anon 8/28/24 (Wed) 20:56:59 No.2784

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anon 4/16/25 (Wed) 16:32:33 No.3193

>>1947

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anon 11/8/24 (Fri) 17:18:11 No.2842 [Reply]

>higurashi is set in 1983
Did they watch minky momo or other anime?

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anon 1/3/25 (Fri) 15:02:00 No.2897

Card Captor Sakura is referenced by Keiichi in watanagashi, it was during the game Sympathies. Although it was referenced as Card Master Sakura, so maybe in their universe it was released 13 years earlier under a different name.

anon 1/3/25 (Fri) 15:15:58 No.2898

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>>2844
holy shit it's lum!!!
yes i know uy didnt invent oni, this is a joke

anon 4/16/25 (Wed) 01:25:13 No.3174

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>>2842
K1 talks about Gundam in one of the episodes, if I recall

410 4/16/25 (Wed) 01:30:58 No.3175

I need to hop back on Higurashi, I got filtered hard by episode 2 but I can 'see' it. Considering doing a write up on a feminist reading of Episode 2

anon 4/16/25 (Wed) 02:21:11 No.3176

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>>2842
I bet Mion would like Golgo 13

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Post a /cel/ image every time you visit anon 1/14/25 (Tue) 03:22:42 No.2922 [Reply]

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anon 2/27/25 (Thu) 20:36:54 No.3129

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anon 3/1/25 (Sat) 04:05:25 No.3130

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>>2922

anon 3/9/25 (Sun) 19:18:26 No.3138

>>3129
fantastic stuff. ty.

anon 3/12/25 (Wed) 19:51:20 No.3139

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anon 3/23/25 (Sun) 03:05:06 No.3154

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Vampire princess (1988) anon 3/19/25 (Wed) 14:52:45 No.3150 [Reply]

the 1990s anime is very BLAH,but the 1988 is very good and dark,i loved it
my favorite episodes are the 2nd and the 4th
someone watched this anime too?

anon 3/20/25 (Thu) 13:28:14 No.3152

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The 90s anime is great. The OVA is great too.
Miyu is an underrated (creepy)cutie.

anon 3/21/25 (Fri) 07:17:54 No.3153

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>>3150
I love both, though the OVA is my favorite, the way episode 2 plays on Miyu's difficulties with her destiny and her human emotions is really well done. The storyboarding and drawing quality is immaculate in all four episodes, and I love how it keeps Miyu mysterious but endearing at the same time.

Miyu has a message for you all.

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the great recommendations thread anon 1/11/22 (Tue) 03:29:23 No.686 [Reply]

give one get one.

I start: Outlanders (16.12.1986), great trashy fun on a saturday evening.
back of the box blurb:
>Scantily clad space princess Kalm arrives on Earth to shake things up! As her father’s armada pummels the Earth’s forces this busty space maiden plunders the planet in search of a good man to call her own. Hapless Earthling Tetsuya finds himself caught between the alien invaders and the warrior woman who would be his wife!

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anon 8/14/24 (Wed) 07:17:08 No.2770

Today I watched a movie called metamorphosis/wings of change that apparently also had quite a bit of American involvement (and I mean apparently this movie had some American animators involved including Virgil Ross of looney tunes fame best known for designing bugs bunny), another animator on the Japanese side of things is maya matsuyama who also did other Sanrio works and later was an animator on Pokémon! TFW I just learned that an animator for Golden age looney tunes and an animator for 90s Pokémon worked on the same project. Crazy stuff

anon 10/27/24 (Sun) 09:56:54 No.2836

Those Who Hunt Elves is an underrated gem.

Anonymous 11/3/24 (Sun) 22:55:27 No.2839

>>2836
Might check that out later

iranon 3/12/25 (Wed) 22:26:20 No.3140

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>>686
try these out (cat soup,venus wars)

iranon 3/12/25 (Wed) 22:31:01 No.3141

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>>3140
forgot to mention, if you like action and don't mind some mistakes in plot watch this

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anon 1/7/25 (Tue) 11:46:22 No.2901 [Reply]

Is it me or does the online lain fandom miss the entire point of the show? I'm pretty sure the message isn't that Lain is a cyber goddess or pushing some kind of tech gnosticism or accelerationist pseudo-philosophy.

The general themes seem to be on Japanese family breakdown, lonliness and atomization, and technology causing a hyperreal breakdown of the world. There's also the conspiracy history of the internet being invented by aliens but also theological stuff about the soul and religion too, which I'm guessing is just added on as a way to create artificial depth.

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anon 1/19/25 (Sun) 02:16:39 No.2934

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I kinda like the mystical interpretation of Lain though

anon 1/25/25 (Sat) 23:06:23 No.3021

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>>2901
It's about a lot of things, because everything is interconnected in some invisible way, which again is one of the themes of the show. I think a lot of it is about death. Not just the one big death, but all the kinds of little death. Death of ego, death of innocence, death of the spirit, death of the body, death of the mind, death as a means of escapism, a quiet death of society that no one really even notices. Suicide, social suicide, decentralized unintentional mass suicide, murder without killing.

Or maybe I'm just some wacko.

anon 2/22/25 (Sat) 04:10:39 No.3116

>>2901
I wish Serial Experiments Lain covered more Internet history.

anon 3/3/25 (Mon) 13:50:11 No.3134

>>3021
The show seems to be saying that interconnectedness is a bad thing. This isn't a mystical metaphysical interconnectedness, but everyone's interactions being mediated by a single technological system they have no control over. Slowly some people's existence gets forgotten, they become faceless nobodies or people don't notice other important people in their lives are dead or need help or like Lain they are easily manipulated by freaks on the internet. So in that sense its about social death and the death of society. SEL is sort of weird because on the one hand its very anti-tech and pessimistic but on the other its fascinated with tech.

anon 3/9/25 (Sun) 04:02:38 No.3137

I mean , you're talking about 14-15 year olds who think the "weird pc girl" is just food for their "mysterious aesthetic"

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Man this board is dead anon 12/12/24 (Thu) 03:16:37 No.2855 [Reply]

Isn't the whole point of this site about retro anime? Y'all need to start posting more retro anime!

anon 12/12/24 (Thu) 19:28:26 No.2856

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>>2855

Ive been busy.

anon 2/26/25 (Wed) 17:14:07 No.3126

>>3125
Nigga doesn't know about the glory of Precure.

anon 2/27/25 (Thu) 00:03:02 No.3127

>>2855
Well, I'm watching fancy Lala. it starts off a bit weak, but begins to channel what was so good about the '80s Pierrot Mahou Shoujo shows as it goes on: that dreamy kind of surreal take on magic and allowing it to interact with believable slice of life scenarios, and like Creamy Mammy it has the idol element front and center.Occasionally the animation and storyboarding gets quite strong as well , It's not really on the level of the '80s shows, but it's not unsatisfying that regard.

What about you, anon?

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Doraemon and Fujiko F. Fujio anon 2/21/25 (Fri) 22:41:06 No.3115 [Reply]

I am enjoying Doraemon.
He's a lovable chap.

anon 2/25/25 (Tue) 20:13:27 No.3123

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You awakened some ancient memory in me. I forgot I had ever watched the 2005 show. I can't recall a single episode I watched, and I don't think I watched a lot to begin with, but kid me was obsessed. I would make other "doraemons" in my mind and such. Perhaps I should pick this series up for real some time. Though it seems to have ended in the 90's, so I wonder how the reboot (or whatever the 2005 show is) would compare to it.

anon 2/27/25 (Thu) 20:00:38 No.3128

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He is not free and open source. He must die.

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BIBLE BLACK artbook dump ishikawa kanji 2/1/25 (Sat) 18:25:57 No.3063 [Reply]

good evening (nearly non-existing readers)
i welcome you to another round of dumping.
this time we will go hardcore and look at a artbook from the semi-legendary BIBLE BLACK.

i know it's somehow just another drop in the sea of hentai but since it got me hard (made me hard as well) back in the day here we go.

since this board is somehow quite deserted (is there an irce ? if there is, please tell me. anyway, #nightline @ irc.rizon.net is where i dwell… another non-user dead channel but if you seek some talk, come on).

yeah, we go sexy tonight. i will keep the hc out but there will be some tits and all. enjoy. or not. tell me.

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ishikawa kanji 2/15/25 (Sat) 18:52:21 No.3098

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i opt for more gingers in erotic anime

ishikawa kanji 2/15/25 (Sat) 18:52:57 No.3099

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just <3 <3 <3 and cum

ishikawa kanji 2/15/25 (Sat) 18:54:15 No.3100

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bonus

ishikawa kanji 2/15/25 (Sat) 18:56:46 No.3101

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bonus

ishikawa kanji 2/15/25 (Sat) 18:57:04 No.3102

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