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80s metal thread anon 12/05/2022 (Mon) 20:10:29 No. 183
I just found this board and I already feel home, so I decided to start a thread about some of my favorite 80s metal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdhb2oG-d3A One of the greatest prog/heavy metal albums of all time. One of the first metal albums to experiment with synthesizers and wow did it sound futuristic for 1986. However, Queensryche reached their zenith 2 years later with this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8_JqGPteKk Operation: Mindcrime, a politically-charged concept album about a drug addict named Nikki and his role in a shadowy revolutionary organization. The moral in short is that there will be jackals who exploit people with ideals for their own gain. Another interesting one is Iron Maiden's "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMuGG0ajtCs Their most progressive rock influenced release to date; similar to Queensryche's "Rage for Order" in some ways but still definitely feels like a Maiden album. Bruce Dickinson's vocals, the keyboards, and the interesting songwriting is a treat for anyone who loves this sort of proggy stuff. Now, I know I posted 3 progressive metal albums in a row, and I just want one more before I move onto other things, so bare with me... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5TnV09-n9A Voivod's "Nothingface". Extremely experimental for something from 1989, it's "proggish" but not in the vein of these other albums which are prog in their use of "grandiose" instrumentation and unusual songwriting, and while this album has the latter, it's in a class of its own. Perhaps the first "avant-garde metal" release ever; it's very dissonant, but also weirdly melodic. Sadly the guitarist, who went by "Piggy" passed in 2005. Alright, now let's move on to death metal because I'm not a big thrash guy (I like thrash but I'm more of a death metal guy) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jldI2ZzYgFQ Scream Bloody Gore by Death. I don't wanna get into the argument of "who did it first" in terms of death metal, but just know that this album is a classic for a reason. However, I think one of the more prototypical brutal death metal albums is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYjNHGUB5MU Morbid Angel. The guitarist behind it would fit quite well here I'm sure (being that he's a huge Ranma 1/2, Sailor Moon, DOOM, and Quake fan). However, one of my favorite death metal albums of all time is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zM8EdasKf8 I suppose this also fits under "goregrind". I'd include Terrorizer and Repulsion but I think this band is better than both. It has the punk edge as grindcore bands usually do, but the riffs are much more death metal styled; the tremolo picking and grooviness mixed with that dirty, punk-y grind edge creates an experience like no other. If you want one, just one grindcore album to carry with you, THIS would be my recommendation. British death metal at its absolute finest hour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5IHWtvU2zo Yet another death metal album from 1989! Autopsy's one of my favorite death metal bands of all time. Imagine Tony Iommi played in a death metal band and you'd get Autopsy. It's death metal for sure, having the scary atmosphere, atonal riffing style, and vocals associated with it, but there's a bit of Sabbath influence in the riffing with the thick, resounding single note riffs this album contains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4mzIlZv4XI So many albums here from 1989, but I had to include Obituary's "Slowly We Rot". Classic death metal album. Obituary's known for their groovy, simple death metal. No technical mumbo jumbo here, just some groovy riffs and brutality, the way death metal ought to be! Post your own!
>>183 nice picks. Good to get them acquainted with the starters first. Classic british proto-death/thrash from the '80s with embury on drums. Reminds me of the first-wave stockholm death scene, especially with that prevalent first-wave black metal sound. A classic example of bathory/CF or let's be honest, venom worship: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTByQ4msL_g
>>183 >>184 I will say, obituary and queensryche suck ass. Other than that, good thread
>>185 He just picked the wrong obituary album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMkWH7S2DiA Cause of death was def an advancement on what death was trying to do on leprosy with heavy dose of morbid angel's filth
>>186 honestly, obituary has always been a cf clone band to me but I do like their live shows. This set feels sounds raw as shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTsKWvMnwr0
>>187 I agree on the huge celtic frost influence. I think they use their heavy mystical properties to great effect but it is mostly built on the american DM
>>188 do you like xecutioner?
>>190 well... y not?
>>191 It sounds like every other boring death theash demo in the sea of boring death thrash demos, that posers pretend to like cus it's "kvlt". There's nothing interesting in seeing kids fuck around without having found their musical vision or talent yet.
>>192 true, but I could easily argue the same case for obituary, especially with SWR. AsI said, they have good live shows but in terms of florida metal, they're sfu-tier to me. I feel the same way about other bands like deicide.
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>>193 SWR is not good either, they really only perfected their vision with Cause of Death and I find it to be incredible, with how the riffs seamlessly flow together, each riff either more heavy or intense with haunting leads/solos and alien progressions bringing to mind works of lovecraft. Deicide is literally peak of death metal tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN2_Qr-v51g Deicide on it's cult classic album legion strips death metal of all the excess and pretense creating the most primal and animalistic rendition of it to date. The off beat but constant rhythmic hammer nails their message into the unsuspecting listener while the wild melodies like a ferocious beast escape a the grasp of human understanding. Carried by overlayed vocals that sound like ancient demons whispering tales of human downfall and atonal solo leads that are nuclear bombs cutting through the air, diving down to bring retribution to human masses like hellfire itself is raining from heavens, deicide invites us to their own world disarming us of our petty attempts to cope with the unconquerability of nature and cosmos. In this regression to animalistic primordial human self deicide takes apart all our definitions of the material world and ignoring all our discovered laws of physics like a black hole engulfs us and challenges us to stare into the abyss. This challenge is what truly separates the enlightened from the weak willed.
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>>194 (cont.) Very few bands can claim to the right to sit next to deicide in the hall of death metal, in conjuring such strong emotions, those bands being Immolation - For unveiling human hypocrisy in it's full on Here in After, and for elitistically triumphing over the sad and pathetic masses and watching them ruin themselves on aptly titled Close to a World Below. At the Gates - With their incredible ability to use the majestic melancholia of norwegian black metal mixed with the technicality of US death metal(like atheist and it's philosophy) to tackle existentialism in a very intimate way on their debut album Red in the Sky is Ours. Infester - For finding profound spiritual beauty in acts of despicable evil, death and filth. Incantation - Most likely the subtlest and most complex band songwriting-wise on this list, for subverting almost every death metal trope in existence on Onwards to Golgotha to create their vision of endlessly creative hellish torment and for Mortal Throne of Nazarene, where they craft a masterpiece of biblical proportions that sounds like hell and even god is being created right in front of you. Supuration - For telling a one of a kind story on "The Cube" detailing the death of our unnamed protagonist coping with and contemplating his own suicide, being forced to view his own body from the astral planes, confront his own parent's grief, journey to the most unknown parts of human consciousness and death and try to find strength in possibly a hopeless situation to return to mortal plane, be reborn or be lost forever. The musicianship of the top layers of death metal is only topped or matched by the elite of black metal and select few artists specializing in gothic/ambient music.
>>194 you must be describing inquisition or some shit with terms like "nature and cosmos". I always saw them as the goofy satan larp band that begs for fucking slipknot to give them supporting slots but I will admit I like asheim and all but their later records are abysmally boring. Also fuck atg and gothenturd shit but I really like incantation and supuration. The Cube is an all time classic.
>>196 You have no idea what you are talking about if you think inquisition is anyway near as evocative. And someone versed in metal would know that gothenburg gave not one but two great bands At the Gates and Sacramentum. Maybe your ears can't distinguish fine musical qualities and has to take someone's word that ATG sounds like in flames
>>197 Inquistion is a pedo band but I still prefer them over deicide even when we're talking about their peak period. Deicide is more brutal since they're death metal obviously but the melodies are way less interesting. >Sacramentum cool a dissection clone band. Look dude, I'm more of a stockholm guy (I still fucking hate shit like amon amarth). Not big on the whole gothenburg shit. Obviously at the gates mog most other fucking gothenberg bands like goddamn in flames or DT, but TRITSIO's tone makes the riffs and more sort of rhythmic driven passages sound like farts and it's the same problem I face with SWR and deicide. I guess our tastes just conflict. Inquisition goes for a more atmo-shit sound so I can see why it doesn't grip you by the balls as much, but to each it's own I guess.
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>>197 >>199 oh and BY THE WAY. BY. THE. WAY. You can't tell me shit like slaughter of the soul doesn't sound like some in-flames shit. Riff-wise I would unironically put jester race over that record. I'm dead serious.
>>199 >>200 There is no point in continuing this as you not only constantly sidetrack from the essence of the music (where it came from or when), use typical zoomer buzzwords without context, but also apparently can't or don't read what I write.
>>201 >essence of the music more like excrement. Also, love the "zoomer buzzword" analogy. Come on bro, you know I'm right.
>>194 >deicide invites us to their own world disarming us of our petty attempts to cope with the unconquerability of nature and cosmos. oh shit, I was mostly skipping through that storytelling of yours, so this line makes more sense now, my bad, but bands like inquisition still display that vast, nihilistic yet mystic journey through hell and the unknown with the impossible realization of helplessness better to me than stuff like deicide ever could.
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>>203 I somewhat like Into the "Infernal Regions of the ancient cult" and "Incense of Rest", but inquisition isn't nearly as well composed as deicide. Sure you mention that deicide is more brutal because it's death metal but besides that, inquisition for one is also a one trick pony overusing the half step dissonance way too much, it has some quite jarring riffs and transitions between them, and is generally plagued by primitive songwriting with multiple of 4 bar song structures, simple riffs that don't have much interplay of tension and release inside themselves, and only really work in relation with the other riffs. So yeah overall imaginative and delivers good ideas, but mediocre execution with shortcuts and stutters.
>>204 I do agree that inquisition tries to use primal feelings and juxtapost it with with grandeur and majesty to give you a sense of ascension. It is indeed quality
>>204 I personally believe the melodies in inquisition is more smooth while decide is sloppy. Honestly has to do with the whole staccato-like riffs that are very abrupt but fast. I think I should revisit deicide, you're really persuading me lol
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>>206 I'm glad! Sorry I got a little impatient
>>207 I don't blame you I'm a dumbass
>>208 and I'm a nerd. match made in heaven
>>209 pointed this out in the vid but there's an interesting use of an added flattened ninth triad during the end from FDTF. Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOZsq7bf4Ho
>>210 Never been a fan of them I always end up having to compare it to voivod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVJjbUsS2OU Pretty sure those are 9ths in the intro here too. At least I can hear the dissonant notes barely being held together with one root note
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>>211 I like taking from obliveon but obviously yeah, voivod is better. I listen to benediction despite them being a BT clone. Ultimately, it always depends on whether the riffs resonate with me.
>>211 >>212 also love how pretty minimalistic the main riff is. It's mainly comprised of suspended and flattened fifth intervals before descending and leading into a diminished tonic with a flattened fourth as a kind of neighboring tone before it resolves to a diminished fifth triad only to spiral into more chaotic riffage.
>>213 I mean the intro leading to main riff btw lol.
Stuff from my MP3 player that isn't already on this thread Heavy Metal Angel Witch - Angel Witch Metal Church - Metal Church Mostly any of Pantera's 80s stuff (at least I Am the Night & Power Metal) Savatage - Sirens Speed Metal Agent Steel - Skeptics Apocalypse Blind Guardian - Battalions of Fear Vio-lence - Eternal Nightmare Doom Metal Any of Candlemass's 80s stuff Thrash Metal Any of Coroner's 80s stuff Forbidden - Forbidden Evil Overkill - The Years of Decay Paradox - Heresy Rigor Mortis - Rigor Mortis Any of Sepultura's 80s stuff Target - Master Project Genesis Toxik - World Circus Xentrix - Shattered Existence Znöwhite - Act of God Death Metal Morgoth - Resurrection Absurd
>>215 >blind guardian ROFL
this russian deicide/MA worship album is pretty good. Sounds so reminiscent of the 1990 s/t I can't unhear it lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAohe88PK7E not 80's shit but whatever
>>204 looking back I feel these criticisms can be applied to shit like serpent of the light and later records what with the proportionately generic death-metal songwriting with the same riff sequences repeating along with the minor triad and III/V/down-step tremolos being pretty obvious but inquisition is basically an immortal clone band that's centered around the sw-ethos of muh thrashy harsh minimal and cold atmosphere. Legion-era deicide is the best shit. The half-step interval transitions and shit like that have more soul in stuff like the 90's s/t too.