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 No.937

Does anybody know what happened to the guy who operated 04.sbs? He has closed his site, and I haven't heard from him since November, as that was the last time I saw him playing MikuMikuOnline.

I know he used to come to /kind/, so I figured somebody might have an idea.

 No.939

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>>937
i guess it failed... it seemed like a cool experiment!

 No.941

>>939
That's the conclusion I came to.

 No.942

>>939
Experiment?

 No.982

sigh
I liked that site a good bit, but it didn't have much direction. I remember being the only one who posted there for a while.
Frankly, I think the current landscape of imageboards is abysmal, regardless of the reason why things are this way. It is important to post and support every board you like, even if you don't think your post is especially high quality.
Please try your best, even if you don't think it is "good enough".

 No.983

>>982
>Frankly, I think the current landscape of imageboards is abysmal, regardless of the reason why things are this way.
Yeah, it's completely depressing.

 No.984

>>982
>>983
eh... things feel the same. i'm not sure what you guys mean?

 No.985

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>>982
I have the strange situation that there is no board left I care about, but I like imageboards in general. Since the board I used for a long time died I wasn't able to build up a chemistry like I had with that one. What also irks me is that it got really difficult to keep track of all the imageboards around. I always liked doing that, to observe how many there are, what boards they have, what language(s) are used on them, what their culture is, how active they are. Search engines got way worse at finding them, people using imageboards got very distrustful sharing information about other places and how to find them, lists that attempt to keep track on imageboards are offline or outdated. Honestly, I don't know anymore how to discover them. How can you support them(Give activity, make posts) when you can't even find them anymore? Last place I knew that helped with that was buffalo land(Think I wrote it wrong though).

>>984
They sure feel as awful as in the past few years, yeah. Unless something new happened. If you are around since 20 years though, then you know the differences. 15 would be enough as well. The same goes for 10.

 No.986

>>985
>Honestly, I don't know anymore how to discover them.

I discovered this place by accident while reading the worst takes on 4chan, so, uh...

you know, I have no idea how anyone's meant to find this place.

 No.987

>>985
It's nice to see a fellow Rin enjoyer.

> I have the strange situation that there is no board left I care about
I'm in a similar boat. The places I care about are all dead and gone, and I sorta just drift from one place to another. wapchan is a nice place though, I'll try to take >>982's advice and post even if I think I'm not contributing. Sometimes I wonder if my social shortcomings have compromised even my ability to post.

>>986
I very conveniently found this place after becoming totally fed up with zzzchan. I think that place might have more mods than actual users. The whole webring is terrible, not least because of the drama.

Every other place to talk about stuff isnt an image board. IRC, i2p, mailing lists for tech stuff, those sorts of things. Feels like most places are dead internet, though.

 No.989

>>986
>>987
It is hard to advertise this sort of place organically. I have zero interest in buying ads on 4chan, and people seem to frown upon me posting about it on reddit (not all reddit users are "redditors" per se). If we pump out more OC and post it around the net that might help

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>>989
>I have zero interest in buying ads
If ads arent your thing, how about subtracts instead? fufufu

 No.993

>>984
Have you been on imageboards a long time? They felt like they were thriving back in late 2014 when 8chan blew up, and before that there were sites like 789chan (and 888chan), 4chon, and 420chan that were more active than most non-4chan imageboards are today. Early post-Exodus 8chan felt like a golden age of English-language imageboards. I miss the way things used to be.

 No.995

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>>986
I discovered Wapchan through /kind/. Now that I think about it, most places I know I have found because they were mentioned somewhere else. There is lurk and learn, but also lurk, wait and find. Of course I have found way more places with lists and stuff, but those were boards I never really used and therefore don't remember.

>>987
I like all of them, but Rin is my favorite and has a special place in my heart.
Still pissed that there is no route for Misha and Miki and Rika and Saki were only jokes. Yes, mods and all that. They never came close what could have been though. Anyway, it makes me always happy to see somebody continues to talk about it and posts stuff from it. Nice to have you here.

Yeah, I am a digital nomad too. I would like to take roots somewhere, but I just can't care anymore like I used to. This is also a reason why it bothers me so much that it got so hard to find new places. How can a nomad travel, when there is no destination? In my case I noticed that my social shotcomings happened because I was always online and posting. Now that I am forced to interact with people in real life, my urge to post diminished.

I have to admit that I never liked 8chan, the webring and all that revolved around it.


>>989
Friend boards are a nice thing in my opinion. At least I think /kind/ and Wapchan was always a nice fit.

>>993
> I miss the way things used to be.
So do I. The older I get the more I think I am nothing but a fool, a nostalgic, melancholic fool who does not want time to pass.

 No.996

>>995
>I discovered Wapchan through /kind/
Same.
>So do I. The older I get the more I think I am nothing but a fool, a nostalgic, melancholic fool who does not want time to pass.
I remember thinking that the early 2010s sucked with the way the older Internet was being killed off, but in retrospect the situation still wasn't as bad as it is now.

 No.999

Ever thought it wasn't imageboards that changed, but you?

 No.1001

>>993
Man, I miss 420chan.

 No.1004

>>995
>has a special place in my heart
Some of the other girls are cute, but Rin is very very special to me. I relate to her deeply, and her story made me smile and made me cry. The music makes me tear up still. Its one of the only things that pulls emotion from me up to the front, even though I feel things very deeply.

>I would like to take roots somewhere
I just want to find a place where I feel like I belong, but nobody IRL ever seems willing to accept me because I was born different. On imageboards it used to feel like I was finally somewhere I was accepted, but now its all changed. I feel lonely again.

>>999
It hurts

 No.1005

>>1001
I don't think I ever actually posted anything there, but I remember being impressed by the amount of boards they had. It seemed like most English alternatives to 4chan that I saw only had a handful of boards.

 No.1006

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>>1001
I never posted there but it was a great resource. I hear it's coming back. Not under the same guy though, I think he's in jail or something.

 No.1009

>>1006
>Not under the same guy though, I think he's in jail or something.
There's a Foxdick Farms thread about him. I think he was mouthing off about working for the feds before. I remember hearing that Hotwheels expressed interest in taking the board over.

 No.1011

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>>1004
Some? You didn't like all of them?
Rin is also the one that hit me the hardest by far. Like you I felt hard. Now and then while reading the route I had to stop, just to stomach what was dished out. I also have her as a wallpaper, it never fails to evoke some positive emotions from me. The theme parity still makes me feel warm inside. After finishing the story I was one of those who stared at the starting screen for hours, first feeling empty, then lost, afterwards incredibly motivated. On top of that I suffered from Katawa dick for 7 weeks. To this day I hope I can once feel like she did at the end, that everything will be okay.
That feel is very familiar to me. I have no idea if it is a place, a person or a interest that it is lacking. A person would be nice, somebody I click with, with no reason to explain stuff, where the behaviour is confusing or needs to be adjusted. Regarding the imageboards I can only agree as well.

 No.1013

>>1011
The fuck is Katawa dick?

 No.1014

>>1011
> You didn't like all of them?
I thought some of the others were cute on a surface level but even playing through their routes, I found it difficult to understand why they were acting the way they were even after I had the context of their story. I don't think it's hard for anyone to understand why, given how strongly I relate to Rin in particular.
>parity still makes me feel warm inside
Parity and teardrops in the rain are songs I listen to regularly for comfort.
>where the behaviour is confusing or needs to be adjusted
almost every person is like this. Ive had many "I thought he was my friend" art teacher moments. I recently had another with my former best friend. Its difficult to trust anybody now. If I had a person in my life like Rin, I think I would be happier.
>>1013
>unknowing
I shiggy diggy

 No.1015

>>1013
I was curious so I looked it up.

 No.1016

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>>1006
>>1009
uhh... why's he in jail? did he do a dumb thing?

>>1015
man... having katawa dick sounds like it would suck.

 No.1022

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>>1016
There would be no sucking involved whatsoever, I thought the definition was clear anon

 No.1035

>>1014
I see. For me it was not the point of understanding others, but of they understanding me that appealed to me so much.
For me it's Parity and Wiosna.
My condolences, I know this all to well. So far I have lost everyone too. First my friends I had as a kid were lost in my youth, then the friends I have made in my youth were lost as an adult. Now as an adult I didn't make friends yet, who knows if I ever will. All I can say is that I am tired and don't even have the urge to reach out anymore. I feel like I just want to crawl into a corner and be done with everything. Btw, fuck Nomiya. Even Jigoro seems like a decent person in comparasion to him. Honestly, I think a person with an honest chemistry is the only one I would be able to put up with. As you said, just like Rin. She is always serious, as she said herself.
Shiggy diggy made me snort, haven't heard that in a long time.

>>1016
It was actually nice. I could see how it would be without wanking. Wasn't that much of a difference though, had more time for other things, but that was it.

 No.1036

>>937
Yeah no clue, I still sometimes try to head back there by accident and have to remind myself its dead

>>982
Yeah I agree, imageboards are hard to host, cus you dont wanna step on anyones toes of sites you already like, but knowing what people will want to post is also hard. Thats part of why I went with a more proper web-forum, but thats ended up having all the difficulties of an imageboard, but with an extra mini-requirement/pressure of people wanting to have more longer proper posting, which does make it harder imo.
I do think that the few I frequent are quite nice and dont suffer many of the usual issues with some imageboard posting trends. wapchan, hikari3 and sushi are my current favs

>>1011
For me, its Lily. :)
Idk I enjoyed all of the girls stories but I never got the same vibe from Rin as most fans, I think I need to give the game a replay now its been like a decade since i went through it all


>>989
you've done very well with the site without advertising. I can talk about my experience advertising SheepishPatio with you in depth if you wanted to, since i think i've basically exhausted every self-serve ad avenue

 No.1043

>>1035
>For me it was not the point of understanding others, but of they understanding me that appealed to me so much.
I have long since given up on being properly understood. Its so frustrating to communicate even simple basic things and nobody around you understands. Some days are better than others. Some days, I find myself slipping up often and getting lots of strange looks. It hurts all the more that I can't bridge the gap myself either. Nobody is willing to try, everyone treats me like a weirdo or a child, and I can't communicate with them properly. I can't express normally, they way everyone else does. Especially not IRL.
>Btw, fuck Nomiya. Even Jigoro seems like a decent person in comparasion to him.
He struck me as a painfully realistic depiction of how adults treat kids, in particular those who display special talents or abilities. Ones that stand out. Maybe thats my own experiences coloring my view of what is normal, but then again, what is the world if not the things I have lived?
>I think a person with an honest chemistry is the only one I would be able to put up with
I just want to be cared for. I dont want to feel totally and utterly alone. I dont want to be made to feel like im lesser or like I was born wrong. I dont want to be tolerated, I dont want to mask myself and walk a fake world with a fake face on living my fake life doing fake things. I want to feel okay, I want to be myself freely. I want a human to share that with. Ive done tulpamancy and it works, it helps a lot. I recently started listening to those weird asmr things where the anime girl tells you everythings gonna be fine too, which can be nice and give me tingles but I think the ambient train noise ones are the better.
>Shiggy diggy made me snort, haven't heard that in a long time.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers. Its probably not against the rules to say that I first started visiting imageboards before I even turned 10. Its been a long time.

 No.1044

>>1036
>For me, its Lily. :)
Lily is a very pretty girl

What's sheepishpatio?

 No.1046

>>1044
Lily is a great girl and has a pure heart

>What's sheepishpatio?
we're on the wapchan links page and its on ours :)
https://wapchan.org/.static/pages/links.html
Basically its a hobby forum that I run and it works well on mobile

 No.1050

>>1036
She has a very affectionate personality, that surely makes her charming.
Rin is extreme, it either doesn't touch you at all or messes with you beyond imagination. It stands or falls if you can relate to her or not. I think it's good for every person who doesn't get it, it means a lot of stuff doesn't apply to them.

>>1043
I can understand why you gave up on that. If it weren't for my mother I would have done so as well. She understands me very well, can often tell how I am without me saying anything and know what I want from a simple gesture or noise from me. Perhaps this sounds strange, but I also had a cat who got me very well. If I was feeling bad, she would always come to sit an my lap. If I was ill, she would just sit next to my bed. She never made a ruckus, was always quiet and patient, even when she wanted something. She also always sat right behind the door when I came home.
Slipping up is something incredebly painful. Showing your true colours for a second and from that point onward it's only downhill with somebody/something. I hate how humans are social creatures. That spending time with people actually does make me feel better and rejection hurts. I can't really close the gap either, there are simply way to many differences. Stuff a ordinary person, who hasn't issues with their psyche, can't comprehend. Having them in your head instead of on your body is a curse indeed. As you said, no one cares, handing out the loner/weirdo/loser/whatever label and done. Showing my emotions is problem for me too, not because I can't, but because no one cares/understands. This really fucked up my trust towards others.

Yes, he is a very good character. Not likeable though. What is the world, hm? One big mistake? Or rather just not a place for me? That comes from ones experience though, so your statement rings true to me.

Ah, that hurt. I know that I am cared for by my mom. Still I have the selfish wish that somebody who isn't familiy would do so as well. The feeling of being alone I know way to good. Not only does it get so much harder when you life alone, my mother is geeting old too. I can't imagine losing her. To that day I couldn't stomach losing my cat. Still making me tear up, feeling as somebody is squeezing my heart.
Now this continues to hit harder and harder. I feel you anon, it's like as if I wrote your lines myself. Fake life, fake things... I don't even know what I want, besides what I already wrote. All I can say is that I don't want what I have now. Excluding my mom of course. Tulpas is something I have read a lot so far, never tried it though.
I remember way to well and miss it dearly. That's very young , this messed with the development for sure. The silly disclaimer "You have to be 18 for this website/imageboard" is no joke. Such fragile, formative years to spend there, it surely didn't help.

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>>1050
>that somebody who isn't familiy would do so as well
I don't even have a family that understands. I grew up without any resources to help me because they thought allowing me to be diagnosed as a child would be shameful, and now as an adult I'm in a position where it will harm me because there are legal consequences. For them all that matters is that I succeed by the traditional definition, with lots of money and things like that. I don't even really have much of a relationship with my mother anymore, and my relationship with my father is somewhat strained. My sister is almost a stranger, and even with such a strong social impairment I can see that the rest of my family doesnt like me very much. I hate it!!! I can't even take a nap without hiding it from them, or go get confirmation about the thing thats defined my entire world since I was born. I just want to be happy. I just want to be loved. Why was I born if nobody even wants me around?
>this messed with the development for sure
I wouldnt be me without it, but the obvious effects are desensitization. I dont really like or seek out those sorts of things, but none of the terrible things on the internet you might expect to see really phase me. gore, rekt, pornography of any variety (including the illegal kind), extreme ideological ideas of any orientation, I have no real reaction anymore. It doesnt offend me or make me angry or upset. If I see it, I would act as though it were any other uninteresting picture or video and continue on. I think thats probably the most notable effect. I think anyone else who would have been exposed to that sort of thing at age 8 and onward daily would probably have a similar thing about them.

 No.1069

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>>1050
>>1051
erm... you guys should talk more! you don't need to start with people. instead, you can easily start right now by reading words aloud! oh, and it's a good idea to make sure to do this every day!

once you guys can talk well, it shouldn't be too hard to find some friends!

 No.1070

>>1069
oh, fuck off.

 No.1071

>>1051
Shit, anon. I thought about what I can tell you, but I really don't know. All I can say is that they sound like some awful parents. If you have a child, you have to be ready to accept and nurish whoever will come. Having expecations is wrong and will only hurt yourself and your child.
The other thing is that I do enjoy talking to you. I know it's not much coming from some stranger on an imageboard, but I mean it.

Yes, it's a huge part of what you made you. The effects you described are something I experience as well. It shows beautifully how big the impact is. Growing dull, cold, getting accustomed to horros. Who knows what the impact of all the things read and seen in the subconsciousness are.

 No.1072

>>1071
>I thought about what I can tell you, but I really don't know
Words often fail us when we need them the most. For Rin her answer was art, for me it's programming.
>The other thing is that I do enjoy talking to you. I know it's not much coming from some stranger on an imageboard, but I mean it.
We don't need to be more than anonymous netizens crossing paths to have a meaningful interaction. I enjoy talking to you too.
>Growing dull, cold, getting accustomed to horro[r]s
have you ever had to feign an emotion or particular type of response to appear normal? I call it masking, when I pretend to be normal, but it feels gross and uncomfortable when I do it. It's like I'm giving a doppelganger control of myself and I become a helpless passenger. My evil twin wears the same face as me but always acts to further tangle me in a malicious web of normaldom which I can scarcely understand. Ever more knots and ever more labyrinthine tangles of reality-denying lies of comfort and signals hidden within signs hidden within phrases hidden within other phrases.

I think its beautiful how one little thing can grow like a tree into such a titanic thing. The roots of my person all have such humble, insignificant beginnings but any change renders my whole world asunder completely. Not even abyssally damned but wholly voided out of existence. The way things are, are the only way things could be and still include me.

 No.1082

>>10
You talk a lot about the nessecity to wear a mask when being around people. May I ask in what way you are different than others?

 No.1085

>>1082
Under the assumption you mean me, the anon talking a lot about "masking" and "pretending", I am different in a few ways. I can't make proper eye contact, and unless I focus my eyes move around a lot even when Im talking to someone; As a consequence, it's very common for people to think I am strange and some people (usually older people) think I'm suspicious. Aside from that, I have tremendous amounts of trouble picking up social ques or reading and understanding other peoples emotions (and my own, as well), which most find to be tremendously irritating to the point that I have been physically assaulted over my lack of understanding multiple times. For these reasons, its largely a matter of safety that I need to "mask" or pretend to be normal. If I did not do that, I would be at serious risk of bodily harm from some people and discrimination from others. Its most important in things like job and college interviews.

In addition to the other reasons, my sensory experience is also very different from others. My wires get crossed, so to speak, and so everything I experience is very intense and multi-sensory. I dont just feel or hear or smell or touch things, I experience everything on full blast with all my senses and also things that are related (in my mind) at the same time. For example, when I hear a train coming into the station, I dont just hear it but also see it and other trains in my mind, I smell the seats and the station, I feel the vibrations as it pulls in and the feeling of the shitty faux leather and the clackity clack as it moves around. I feel the full experience of a cross-country train, a subway, standing on station platforms and holding toys in my hand. In one big instant blast of experience. That happens to me for every single thing I go through every single day. Apparently this doesnt happen to other people, which I think is kinda sad.

 No.1086

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>>1072
>>1072
I am still searching that answer. In my youth I wrote a lot of stuff, short stories and poetry. Then I didn't do anything for more than a decade, afterwards I suddendly had the idea to create a visual novel. So far I have descriptions for the characters, for some scenes, some endings, created a game design document, played around with some engines, wrote around 3 quarters of act 1 and made a flowchart for the decisions that occur until now. Well, new ideas came how to improve things, which requires me to rewrite most of the stuff I have. It demotivated me so much, that I didn't do anything since a year. On top of that I have a new, very stressful and demanding job. Even worse is my doubts if this is what could be my anwser. I hate being a human.

Honestly, this is why I still bother with imageboards. If it didn't occur, I would quit them.

Very well, unfortunately. I have to do this daily at work. It's straightforward soul crushing, not being able to be honest. Life as an adult couldn't be worse. I really don't think I can do that for how long I am supposed to.

Having peaked in childhood surely does feel like that. It's only going down, until dropping completely out of the picture. I hate change and was never able to adapt, the consequenes are obviously being left behind.

 No.1104

Cool, Rin enjoyers.

>>1011
Rin was my first route. Whenever I think of this game I think of her, I'll never forget the first time I went through that roller coaster, it messed with me during and after her route. She's got a special place in my heart as well.

 No.1110

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>>1085
>intense experiences
whoa! sounds rad! i remember being similar when i was a kid. those
were fun times!
>>1086
if you don't like your job, why don't you get another one? like something more fun and fits you, like writing?

 No.1112

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>>1104
Hey, now. That makes 3 of us already! I am happy to have you here, anon.

I tried to go for Rin in my first route, but ended up on Emi. I like her as well, her dynamic with Rin is incredebly precious. Same here, if I think about it, the first thing that comes into my mind is she. I honestly don't know what hit me the hardest in the entire route. For me it was more of a boxing match, one where I couldn't get it together from one hit to the next. One where I went down in the first round, but I got beaten again and again, not being able to do anything, just laying there, taking it all. No idea how many times I stared at the wall, starting to think about the topics that were touched, my intepretations of it, debating with myself about conclusions I have come to and statements from the route. I also had to get every ending, I couldn't pass on that. The neutral ending, huly fucking shit. Just thinking about it made a few tears appear.

>>1110
I tried to get away from my field several times already, all attempts failed. I tried picking something I like, it failed. I tried picking something that may have circumstances that are bearable, it failed.
I don't like writing. If I did, then I wouldn't have stopped doing it for more than a decade nor would I have put my project on hold.
A job being fun sounds like very high expectations for me btw. It all boils down to a job being profitable, which means money needs to flow. Supplier and demand, customers, that bullshit. Whatever you do, you are always subject to the whims of customers. Even if you are self employed and are your own boss, you have to do something that sells. After all you have to eat. Exempt working for the government or church, payed by taxes.

 No.1113

>>1112
/rin/ when

 No.1114

>>1113
Every time you open it, parity starts playing.



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