No.5800
>>5799I turn around and that can of pills smiling smugly, and then it starts to run after me, and I start to run away, and I know it's all happening again…
No.5801
>>5799I once ducked because I thought someone was pointing a gun at me, but it was just one of those cameras with a long lens. I thought, wow, I'm paranoid, and moved on.
No.5821
It's a bit weird how common developmental patterns are. Learning that other people disliking you is not in fact a problem that has to be solved being one of them. I guess this mostly applies to agreeable people.
No.5823
Fast cozy places get raided, and slow cozy places are slow. Logically, I should post more content in slow places until anon starts responding to all of it, but I actually have a feeling that, seeing all that content, anon would instead think something like this:
> Why don't you shut up already and let me sleep in peace?
Again, logically, I would say that it doesn't matter what any anon will say or think in response, and I or (you) should post the stuff we want to post because we genuinely want to post it: nothing else can possibly be a good reason, because everything else wouldn't be genuine and anon shouldn't be a poser. But then I ask myself why would I want to post anything, if the universe, where the sleepy friend only wants other friends to shut up, is the real one? Wouldn't it then be more logical to keep everything between the people who care? I, me, and myself.
Maybe it's not a very /kind/ thought, but I actually wanted to post that.
No.5826
1. Be a slow cozy place
2. Put effort into it and become a fast cozy place
3. Get raided
4. Be a slow cozy place
No.5828
>>5827That sounds about average. I genuinely wonder if there are people left in the world at all who don't feel that way. Maybe /kind/ is being so slow because anons have to force themselves to /hug/ someone and not post gore instead. But then that subverts the entire purpose of this board. Or the entire purpose of socializing for that matter.
>Let's pretend to be kind to each other instead of sending very personalized hate mail!Yay…
No.5829
>>5828It has nothing to do with pretending or gore. There are very few people here, so there aren’t many posts.
No.5832
>>5829And why is there very few people here exactly? The place is nice, people know about it, and they still choose not be a part of it. Because this isn't their cup of tea, because they'd rather have the other thing.
No.5834
>>5823Why do you think people would want you to shut up? Unless it's obvious spam, most of us would like more activity. It's just hard for the small number of regulars to keep discussion going day after day so we sometimes fall silent for a while. Doesn't mean we like it that way.
>>5828I don't think so. /kind/ was a really fast board for the first year or so on 8chan. I don't think the decline had any deeper reason other than that 8chan started bleeding users after Infinity Next.
"Alt-chans" are just slow in general if they're not /jp/ spin-offs and always have been. Most places that allow goreposting are also dead.
No.5836
>>5834>Why do you [feel] people would want you to shut up?Some people told me so in the past, and I tend to extrapolate observed human behavior instead of being optimistic about the behavior I haven't observed yet. It's not any given community, it's my experience with people in general. Consider it my tiger-horse.
>Most places that allow goreposting are also dead.I'm going to talk about this part in a little more detail. Yes, chans are under significant technical, political, and cultural pressure in 2025, many are dead, dying, or slowing down due to familiarity and fatigue. That's a thing, I won't be denying it. However, there's one and only /kind/ board at the moment (a place where you will be treated nicely, can have a /hug/, and may feel safe to talk about your sleeping habits; a place, in fact, where I can have this open conversation with you and not feel like everything I say will be used against me), and it also happens to be slow; but aside from here and all the /jp/ spin-offs, as you've aptly put it, there's a plethora of various boards on many chans with a total PPH far above 20, whose main content is intentionally unkind.
Wapchan and most of its friendly chans have rules specifically prohibiting those intentionally unkind posts, but the question that gnaws at me is whether:
a) anons who are on these chans are here because they (same as me) want a nice place without the ugly hateful things, or
b) anons avoid posting those things here, because those things are prohibited, but also don't feel motivated to post anything else.
>I can't post it, it's just random slurs, profanity, yelling, screaming and pure conspiracy (after waging).>I can't post it,>can'tObviously, anon across all decades and boards always had his demons, but it was a passing thing back in 2016 or even in 2019. And now? If rules 2 and 3 didn't exist here and Akari didn't watch over us, would it be 3 PPD of /kind/ posts and 300 PPD of random slurs, profanity, yelling, screaming and conspiracy theories? Or still only the 3 PPD of /kind/ that we have now? This is not a statement, this is a question, and I don't actually know the answer to it. However, I still have my usual doubts in humanity and, because of that uncertainty and insecurity, I feel what I feel about rocking the boat and posting too much too often on a slow board.
No.5837
I am paranoid people can recognize my posts on other sites and will be deanoned in the future
No.5839
>>5828I just came back from another day of work when I made that post about a literal thread about thoughts (which I jokingly exaggerated). I'm not a retarded gore poster who wants to spam a million slurs on an imageboard I surf almost daily (don't know why you just assumed). Try and actually get a job and not feel that way after months of labor.
>>5832Because forced kindness is just as bad as forced rudeness. It's that simple. It's the main reason why such boards like this aren't "active" enough for your liking. Natural kindness will always be more powerful then forcing people to be kind. Forcing kindness will always lead to less honest posting, too. You need a balance, like all things. Honestly for what /kind/ is, it isn't even that bad. It has a decent balance. Though, the self-loathing posts are the most annoying ones on this board and make me post less.
>>5829^This^, you're just trying to make yet another annoying dull post about the imageboard being slow for the billionth time. SO WHAT? I like it that way. Why does everything have to fast paced slop? Go do something, get some hobbies, CREATE. It'll keep you off this board for a while. And when you come back in a few days, you'll see new posts to respond too.
No.5840
>>5837Learn to not care. It has as little meaning as you can't imagine.
No.5841
>>5839>Try and actually get a job and not feel that way after months of labor.>Because forced kindness is just as bad as forced rudeness.>you're just trying to make yet another annoying dull post>SO WHAT? I like it that way. Why does everything have to fast paced slop?>(don't know why you just assumed)Thanks for the live demonstration, I guess?
No.5842
>>5837Most likely that already happened.
No.5848
>>5839It was so obvious that you were joking. Every post with that lum image has been unserious. I don't think there's any forced kindness here. To me kindness is something far more radical than not saying slurs. It's lending an ear to struggling friends that need to be heard. It's reaching your hand out to uplift and edify your fellow friend. Something sappy like that. Banning slurs is just the exclusion of the contrary. Not saying them in public is just being relatively ordinary.
I've been on both fast and slow /kind/. I enjoy both, but if we grow in number, it should be done slowly and deliberately with small groups that are well suited to assimilate into this specific board's culture. However, now's not the time or place for that. Winter is a time for waning.
No.5849
>>5848>It was so obvious that you were joking.Some people obviously can't tell, lol.
No.5850
>It was so obvious that you were joking. Every post with that lum image has been unserious.
It doesn't matter. The degree of irony in the oekaki post doesn't change the followup in any way, nor does ad absurdum work here, because even the 'joke' isn't so different from reality. You can take it ironically or unironically and the sum of the conversation stays exactly the same: anon tells anon to shut up.
>a place, in fact, where I can have this open conversation with you and not feel like everything I say will be used against me
Oh it will be. Distorted, rearranged, read selectively, and used to derail. Just like everywhere else.
>Some people obviously can't tell, lol.
Classy.
No.5859
>>5850>It doesn't matterThat's probably why friend takes issue with your posts. The actual reality of what he was trying to convey didn't matter to you. It was just an opportunity for you to make a series of assumptions based on a hasty generalization to push your own pet meta theory about the board. Personally, I wouldn't take issue with any of that besides the generalization, but I can see why the rest might annoy someone.
>anon tells anon to shut upIt's kind of odd how you go on to complain about distorting and rearranging words when this is how you've twisted what buddy actually said.
>used to derailJust like how you used buddy's post to derail into the meta theory lecture you wanted to give. It turns into a meta-meta discussion, and now people want to cry foul.
>Just like everywhere elseMountain out of a molehill, buddy. He actually gave you decent advice, but just in a slightly more coarse way than some would've given it. Ultimately, I like both of you and think you're good guys, so let's be good friends.
No.5867
>>5836>Wapchan and most of its friendly chans have rules specifically prohibiting those intentionally unkind posts, but the question that gnaws at me is whether:>a) anons who are on these chans are here because they (same as me) want a nice place without the ugly hateful things, or>b) anons avoid posting those things here, because those things are prohibited, but also don't feel motivated to post anything else.This worries me too. So I steer clear from online spaces now and I'm reluctant to post on wap even. The PPD count here is just low and I guess the types that want to hurl insults, slurs, and ramble about vaccines are turned off by slow boards. Then again, you never know what people are really like behind the scenes.
No.5868
>>5867Even at my lowest, when I was hurling insults, using slurs, and rambling about conspiracies, I still made time to relax and just discuss my hobbies on comfy boards. The kind of person who can only talk that way is probably incredibly rare and likely underage. Yeah, I think people are generally more multifaceted behind the scenes.
No.5942
>>5939Yep, my experience's been exactly the same. On top of that I usually end up being hated.
No.5944
>>5939Why can't you just stop trying to meet expectations?
No.5945
>>5944I don't think people have full access to their decision making processes, lots of people talk about doing things they know are bad for them, or not doing things they know will be good for them. I think it makes sense to assume that they're genuinely correct and it's possible to behave irrationally this way. In the same way, it's not about consciously trying to meet expectations, but that knowing what the expectations are creates a clear path of least resistance where I can get some maximum benefit for some minimum effort. I think knowing that certain choices will lead to certain outcomes weighs on the scale and makes you more likely to choose them, even subconsciously. Over time these little nudges build up and you start to act in a way that is less in line with your own preferences and expectations for yourself, and more in line with the expectations and preferences of other people. It's not possible to just "not do this" because you can't determine even reflectively, the exact magnitude and direction of these nudges, so if you tried to correct some how you would just still be acting in a way contrary to your own preferences, just against other people's preferences. In a sense, this is the pretty common teenage rebellion that isn't actually freedom, but a "rebellion" that still leaves you entirely dependent on what someone else thinks. "My parents don't like these clothes so I'll wear them" still leaves you exactly as subordinate to your parent's taste as "My parents like these clothes so I'll wear them", just with the direction reversed.
No.5946
>>5945This is a neurotic fixation on control rather than anything about authenticity. If your preferences are malleable and dependent on your environmental conditions to reveal themselves then perhaps they are just that, malleable and conditional, and any claim to authenticity based off of acting on your preferences is as it seems: acting based off of your knowledge of your environment and what you consider to be preferable. There is no way to distill your preferences from your condition, and so there is no authentic prefence to be found.
No.5947
>>5945This won't help you but I feel obliged to say it anyway. You can't remain authentic if you don't know yourself. When you join a community in search of a place in the world, you know not yourself, and so by nature bound to rub off the community and sooner or later start trying to become the perfect member, accordingly to their beliefs. This is essentially "trying to meet their expectations". Only once you know yourself you can be invulnerable to such things, but that requires a lot of meditation and will training. This will also rely on your self image that is influenced by others, so you must one way or another choose which self image you will be asserting. This is the hardest thing in life. Inconsistent self image cannot be maintained, and building a consistent one with proper regard to your character is no small matter. I'm sorry you have to suffer solitude. I myself am more isolated now than I can handle, so if I don't find an escape I will very likely go insane, maybe even as far as ending my own life, though I cannot say it's probable.
No.5955
My conviction that I should “do it well or not at all” leads me to burning out of hobbies and interests because I never feel I can do them well or know them well enough. Because of my background, I learned early on that if I did not succeed at something then I was just as good as dead. I have to perfect or feign perfection or become worthless garbage. Because of this perfectionism, I will try something (learning guitar, trying art) and instantly drop it if I feel unable to really master it. So I just burn out of hobbies.
No.5956
>>5945Yes you would inevitably act according to neuroconditioned optimizations and maybe maladaptions at least sometimes. You wouldn't want it otherwise - try puppetry or puppet simulator games and realize you'd need to do magnitudes more for complete conscious control of anything of yourself, part of mind or body. It'd be a waste of expression effort to try to act earnestly when you're not feeling like it during a chore, physical or social.
You actually would doubt your sincerity when the best expression opportunity compatibility you've been experiencing is chore-tier.
Opportunities don't change that the existence of subjectivity of your feeling of aesthetics and your sense of what feels non-rottingly sweet in your life would always be with you.
That is, cybernetic mess still has to work around your ontological presence, so…
Having an objective temporal and spatial continuum basis for my causal identity, I don't feel like asking for more to work from. The conditioning being a phenomenon means you can condition yourself around yourself just like you'd condition your CNS into pressing key sequences despite whatever analog signal incoherence and micromistriggers you have within the neurons.
The biggest point of confusion here would be genuine tastes that just naturally may seem so off-putting and adjacent to conformism or malice that, possibly, in lens of your perception, you wouldn't be able to help but always wonder whether it's plausible for such genuine tastes to actually exist.
As long as, for that no one gets hurt and no one's subjectivity gets blocked out from expression, I suppose.
No.5957
Do you think your self is distinct from your physical body?
No.5959
>>5957Yes, very much so. However, physical body affects lived experience and that in turn affects self. I wouldn't be the same self if I started with a different body and even if I changed this body for another, the lived experience would persist.
No.5962
>>5961No, but aluminum foil helmet might reduce headache and stress in some cases.
No.5963
Will Lumfoil prevent my C


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No.5966
>>5959There isn't much sense in assigning a sense of self to a continuous experience if what makes up each moment is reliant on things that aren't immutably tied to it. Why not acknowledge that each thing changes and that change is an essential component to what produces your existence? It's not an objective fact, it's just an arbitrary designation.
No.5970
I am happy because I'm doing good on this holiday. This is just my third day of holiday but I already read a little and watched an anime I was really wanting to watch, and even wrote a little! I finally have time to focus on me.
Through this inteire year I was thinking about how worse I was in comparison to my past self. I would remember 2021, 22 and 24 and how I was better, but now I think I'm slowly recovering from despair and sadness and building a better version of myself: I'm being able to follow my classes now and I want to read and learn instead of just grinding Disgaea, which is what I did in the last, mid-of-the-year holidays. I'm just happy I can envision a better future for myself and that I'm excited about some stuff.
No.5976
>>5963Amputation is the only solution
No.5978
>>5976I think some Lum rubber would do it quite fine.

No.6032
>>6016I have been looking for longer form videos to kill time but half of them are video essays that are lazy intellectualism and the other half is some nut yelling into a camera. I wish there was better text to speech software where the voice does not sound like some inhuman google bot or hurts your ears.