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 No.637

So I know the 20th Century in general is the gud shit, but I argue that the '90s, (or rather, from about 1988 onwards), was the absolute best, in terms of animation quality and good draftmanship, as well as actual directing,creating atmosphere and unique imagery.All those little special effects were great too-The glistening, the glowing,the blurry scenes, heat waves etc.

The 70s and 80s were good, but to me it felt sort of like the animators and director and writers etc were still establishing themselves. The 90s is when they found their feet and took off running in practically every aspect.

I think this era ended in around 2003,and I'm not sure why, maybe digital was just hard to get used to-- but I read somewhere that in the late '90s and early '00s there was a sort of "anime brain drain"-- that is, a lot of older greats left the industry, and the new young talent had a lack of mentorship.Of course there was also increased appeal to otaku and probably some budget issues.

 No.638

>>637
Whoops, I accidentally unlinked one of your images. Here it is

 No.639

>>638
No problem. I've got more

 No.640

>>638
>>637
Lodoss is an awful anime and does not have particularly excellent art. Post more aesthetocs though

 No.641

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 No.642

>and probably some budget issues.
It was mostly budget issues - the Japanese economy went kaput, nobody wanted to spend much money on animation anymore (both in terms of investment and audiences), and a lot of cost-cutting measures had to be introduced to keep things sustainable. The kinds of high-budget, high-quality works that were possible prior to Japan's economic crash in late 1991 (and subsequent recession) became increasingly impossible as the "Lost Decade(s)" continued, and the situation hasn't improved much since.

 No.643

The late 90s is when anime became mainstream.

 No.644

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>>637
Just finished up a video on Stop!! Hibari-kun!, and I remembered this post since Hisashi Eguchi crafted a unique style for himself, having elements of both the popular shojo style of the time as well as American pop art and combining them into a format that worked for shonen. It's definitely nice seeing mangaka who don't just follow the norms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCZzoCn3FNw

 No.645

>>637
For me it's the fashion. The attention to detail was actually more hit or miss than I remembered going back to the 90s like I remember food being really detailed but it wasnt it was always comicy and you never saw borderline pornographic food frames until the 2000s, but the CLOTHES man. There are entire suits of clothes they'd make for characters even male characters like Yusuke Urameshi that looked cool and only used for one episode.

 No.646

>>642
I can't help but notice all the korean and vietnamese names in anime credits these days.
All the talent is probably long dead.

 No.647

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>>642
The OP is saying that the 90's were the golden age of animation, I don't see how that would coincide with the lost decade of Japanese economy if the cause was budget issues.
For what he mentions, mainly visuals, I do blame the shift to digital. It's what I've seen happen to the (Western) comics of my childhood, they became unrecognizable from one year to the next.

 No.648

>>637
I find that anime was more consistently high quality in terms of animation quality from about 84 up until about 91 personally, maybe up until 94, and generally 70s and early 80s anime have the strongest storyboarding. There were some major innovations in the 90s, but shows fell back on still images far more, shot composition got a bit less inventive, Shinbo is the person I can think of who really stands out who wasn't already active in the 80s, and before the OVA market collapsed they were pumping out way too many low quality ones, fewer lavishly animated films as well. When TV anime spiked in 98 quite a few of the shows looked kind of bad too. That general level of high quality we were seeing in mid-late 80s TV anime, when the market for it contracted seemed very distant by that point. Keeping a show looking good for almost 100 episodes straight like the did with Maison Ikkoku feels downright impossible for the industry to pull off at any other time.

There were some huge accomplishments and overcoming of past restrictions, in the 90s though, like Hamaji's Resurrection, but then in the 80s we had stuff like Be Invoked, Birth and Akira which did the same. A small handful of realist animators definitely reached peak skill level by the mid 90s, Ohira, Iso, Utsunomiya, Inoue, Okiura, but then Kanada school guys like Kanada and Yamashita were doing the same a decade earlier.

 No.649

>>648
THIS

 No.650

>>648
That's an interesting proposition.What do you think was the highlight reel of this era?As in, a list of maybe 10 of that era's anime that one ought to see to get what you're talking about...

 No.651

>>650
As in the 80s or 90s? Things like 90s anime breaking down into stills more requires watching lots and lots of TV anime from both decades, so a highlight reel is less applicable there. Or are you wondering what were in my opinion the boundary breaking productions of the 90s?

 No.652

>>645
The first 20 episodes of Ranma are insanely good, it's such a shame that the rest of the chapters are so bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7osqmI9OCXo



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