No.4
>>2Is this the Krusty Krab?
No.12
I mulled for more than half a year over if I should ask /kind/ to be a friend with my board.
I hesitated too long.
No.20
How is everyone doing?
No.21
I'm gonna try out hikari3 is looks kinda cute
No.22
>>21One of the comfiest boards
No.31
I'll miss you, /kind/. I only just got back into boards after slowly leaving them in 2010 or so. /kind/ was very nice. But then it closed.
I've hosted and run boards before and have a server but I also am not sure I want to handle the technical side now...
No.37
>>31Did you have a 10+ year hiatus? That's nuts. I think the biggest one I've ever taken was less than a year. Even then when I came back I saw people using new memespeak that I hadn't heard prior.
No.46
>>37Yeah, it was long. The culture of boards really changed around 2010-2012 and I left. I did occasionally post on 1chan which is a board for trains as well as 4-ch, 4ct and SAoVQ which are textboards but I never bothered with 4chan. Then I got back into boards recently and realized half were dead hah...
It was nice though because it gave me a lot of time to focus on work, travelling, art, music and other hobbies. Now I'm glad to be back. 4chan still mostly sucks especially now since half the people are seething racists but I just ignore that and hang out on /n/, /a/, /g/, /jp/ and other vidya and anime boards.
>>37 No.50
>>46(personal blogpost below)
It's nice that you were able to travel a lot, that's something I hope to be able to start doing in a few years. 4chan is a big mess - you just got people yelling at each other endlessly. I wasn't around for the era you described or even before that, so this recent stuff is all I know.
Honestly, what I liked most about /kind/ was that it was just a nice place to be on the internet in general, but without feeling authoritarian in enforcing niceness. Obviously I don't think the entire net should be like this - that would be ridiculous. But it's nice to have a place where you get good vibes and don't get bad vibes. A lot of us spend too much time on our devices anyways, I myself have been getting back into reading and hiking. That's why I don't mind that wapchan being slow. I've been fortunate enough to never really be a hikineet, though I have been isolated a lot by virtue of doing a lot of work on my desktop, and I don't have the best social life (i myself struggle when talking to new people, would rather isolate myself physically), and that's lead to me not trying to reach out to connections I had in the past, even though I want to. I also want to get better at doing a bunch of stuff, but I can see how people easily become hikineets. If you don't have people pushing you, it's easy to run out of steam. Wapchan is something that at times I have had little to no motivation to work on or even keep running, because it's not something I can really talk about much with others, since people associate "chans" with really extreme stuff (cause there's a lot of it). There's other projects of mine that have barely even gotten off the prototype phase. But I'm happy to at least have this site as an independent place to talk about stuff.
No.55
>>2Why not just make a board on 8chan.moe? Not like it's owned by the pig farmer anymore.
No.56
>>55I don't feel comfortable with anything connected to hotwheels and his older associates, but if it's made, I hope we don't split.
No.58
>>55I don't think that would be a good idea. There's the technical problems with the site, the global moderation is awful, and the popularity and reputation of the site would most likely make the spam 10 times worse.
This place seems better when compared to that.
No.59
>>46>The culture of boards really changed around 2010-2012 and I left.That period was when I first started going to imageboards. I'd known 4chan existed before that (I stumbled across ED in the late 2000s), but I never actually posted and only visited a couple of times until the early 2010s.
My first break from imageboards was in 2014. While I hadn't been going to 4chan, I read the news about the 8chan Exodus that was happening. I immediately checked the site out and ended my break period. I took another break a few years later. I think it was because I got frustrated by the cheese pizza links being spammed and stayed away for a while. I think things were better on that front when I returned, although I remember people having new memer lingo I wasn't familiar with ("roastie" was one; I think "seethe" and "cope" might have been too, although I know that incel types had been saying "cope" before imageboard users started parroting it).
>I did occasionally post on 1chan which is a board for trains as well as 4-ch, 4ct and SAoVQ which are textboards but I never bothered with 4chan. Then I got back into boards recently and realized half were dead hah...I've never even heard of any of those boards. It's still sad if they're not around anymore. I hate the way the Internet has become so centralized. When I was going to 4chan, the only other imageboards I ever really visited were /cow/'s predecessor boards. I remember other boards like 4chon and 420chan too but never got into them.
>4chan still mostly sucks especially now since half the people are seething racistsAt least there's something good about them then.
>>58I have to agree with that.
No.64
>>2>while we wait for the next kindmin to rise to the occasion.Let's face it: being an admin is not a good deal.
You have to deal with the server costs as well as spammers for nothing in return.
Unless people are interested in a Premium pass (which doesn't make much sense, as most people here are interested in staying anonymous) there's just no good reason to host an imageboard.
Which is mildly unfortunate, seeing as imageboards fill some sort of need with people.
It's just these needs are orthogonal to economics (people want community)
No.65
>>64An interesting case study would be kissu.moe seeing as they do get some consistent donations which helps pay for their server costs.
Honestly that site confuses me, as I'm not sure why someone would pay for such things.
https://kissu.moe/donations No.66
>>64I don't think it's any secret that there isn't much to gain from running an imageboard, but it isn't all bad. Sure, it can go to shit easy, but it's really satisfying to run a board that you love. It's not so different from a person wanting to build their own home.
It definitely takes a certain kind of person, and the average anon is not that kind of person.
No.73
Haven't used my computer that much this week, so this is all news to me. This has happened too often for me to really be upset about it anymore, but RIP kind.moe (again). If you ever read this, kindmin, thank you for your service.
>>55I'm sorry, but I just don't think that's a good idea.
No.77
damn, I wish I knew about kind.moe much earlier. I hope this board can still make the same feel as kind.moe
Cheers for kindness!
No.82
>>77There were some epic threads that are now gone, but there is no point in crying about spilled milk. I'm going to post here daily like I did on kind.moe.
No.85
I miss /kind/, but I can't shake this feeling that I might have been part of the problem. Not looking for condolence, by the by. I wasn't the worst by any means, but occasionally my interactions with others would be un/kind/. I will continue to lurk and wait to see if I can learn to become more kind, or find an opportunity to help /kind/.
No.88
>>64I've been hosting my own imageboard and it's definitely more enjoyable than just pay for Netflix :)
No.91
>>89Sometimes I wonder the same. Then I wonder if it really matters so long after the fact.
8chan /kind/ can't be replicated, be it kindchan, kind.moe, or 2kind.moe.
No.95
>>3110 years is very impressive. I've always wanted to take a break from imageboards for three years to get caught up on everything I've let slip because I'm online so much, but somehow I always learn that /kind/ has died a year in and feel obligated to return and support the newest instance. It's happened three times before. This time I didn't even last three months. I just wanted to check that I had blocked wapchan and the first thing I saw was that /kind/ had died again. I still don't entirely understand what happened.
I barely remember what was popular on 4chan in 2010. Shiggy? Mfw? I can't imagine going directly from that and vipper memes to today's hellscape of endless wojak edits.
>>89I'm surprised there's anyone left at all, honestly. Even before 8chan died, /kind/ was very slow. I don't think newfriends understand just how big this board was in 2015. Actually, it's not even about /kind/. 8chan was so bustling and vibrant back then, and then all the non-political boards slowly faded until it was essentially a qboomer website. Seriously, where did everyone go? Back to 4chan? Discord, even?
I also agree with
>>91. 8/kind/ was unique and, like a lot of 8chan-original boards honestly, you can't really recreate the feel today.
No.101
>>91I always just wonder about where the people I used to post with went. I get kind of melancholy thinking about 8chan nowadays. I'd been on imageboards for a few years by the time when that got big, but looking back there was really something special about it. I remember the feeling of optimism the whole venture had. It felt like a big step forward for the Internet at a time when the Internet was going downhill. There were so many different boards catering to interests and topics of discussion that any imageboard user could find something they were into.
>>95>I'm surprised there's anyone left at all, honestly. Even before 8chan died, /kind/ was very slow. I don't think newfriends understand just how big this board was in 2015. Actually, it's not even about /kind/. 8chan was so bustling and vibrant back then, and then all the non-political boards slowly faded until it was essentially a qboomer website. Seriously, where did everyone go? Back to 4chan? Discord, even?I really do miss it. Even just seeing people actively discuss hobbies I didn't have any interest in. I remember there was even a ham radio board. In spite of any faults it might have had, 8chan really was unique.
No.102
>>101>the feeling of optimism the whole venture hadWhat would it take, today, to capture that same optimism?
No.111
I have come to the conclusion that I really don't fit in anywhere imageboards wise.
Also, what does wap stand for?
Wet Ass Pussy?
No.112
>>111Would you mind describing an imageboard that you feel you'd fit in at?
I may be able to redirect you to an imageboard that has the vibe you're looking for.
No.113
Ehh, don't sweat it.
I just tend to be a bit too confrontational. I know being rude is not gonna build a community, but just putting a mask of kindness just lets predators to do as they please, and I don't like that.
Don't mind redirecting me anywhere, I'll find my way one day, I'm sure of it.
No.114
>>113Yeah, I get it.
I only would browse kind intermittently as the emphasis of kindness accentuated a pointlessness to interactions.
By the same token, kindness as a requirement helps fulfill the objective of imageboards: idle chit-chat between the days.
Confrontation is useless in most of the world today because it requires both parties to have a stake in the discussion and its outcome.
Can't be bothered to care about discussions gone wrong, ghosting makes more sense.
At least with a [kind] stamp on things you may extract the bits of value left from imageboards.
Which is, again, idle chit-chat between the days.
No.116
>>102It's tough to say. Maybe a resurgence in imageboard usage while also maintaining a certain level of post quality and being more resilient in terms of deplatforming. Back in 2014, 8chan felt like a blow against Internet censorship and the big tech sites and had way more activity than most English-language imageboards today (not that I think there's anything wrong with slow-moving imageboards; I think boards like 4chan's /b/ move way too fast). The make-your-own-board model also felt like it had a lot of potential at the time. I hate to make the comparison, but it was like a non-garbage version of Reddit.
I messed around with Urbit a while ago, and to me that felt like it could have been the future. That model has its problems (paywalled, pseudonymity, anything past basic posting seems pretty intimidating for people who aren't programmers and what have you), but that ticked some of those boxes. It's supposed to be a decentralized, privacy-oriented network and seemed to attract a solid userbase from what I saw. The necessity of buying user identities gives users skin in the game and would make it for people like scummy cheese pizza peddlers to crap things up. Unfortunately, things seem to have taken a step back as far as usability is concerned. the last time I took a look at it self-hosting isn't even an option on there anymore unless you're running your own server from what I remember. While you obviously don't want the average social media user walking right in and trying to make themselves at home, I think it's asking way too much to require users to essentially be sysadmins if they don't want to pay a monthly fee for someone else to do it for them.
Something similar to that would make me feel a lot more hopeful if it was done properly, especially if it had the kind of cultural vitality that imageboards used to have. I'd ideally prefer some kind of improved imageboard system to a pseudonymous one, but I guess beggars can't be choosers. The Internet is in a sorry state right now.
>>111I don't feel like I fit in 100% anywhere. I think that's pretty normal.
No.119
>>114Doesn't help that the values I had changed a lot with the years. You can't be friends with everyone, but you don't need to, some people will despise you no matter what.
I'm not gonna change the way I behave because someone else thinks it's stupid, most people in the world don't do that and they seem to live quite fulfilling lives.
No.131
wow. im impressed my 3ds works on this site!
:DDDDD
No.142
>Another move
Oh well could have been worse and we could have gone without a board for a while so I don't despise it so much.
No.143
>>89I'm from 8chan's /kind/ and 8chan in general. I have been posting less and less because I started really hating what imageboards turned into although I still post on /kind/ because it is one of the few boards which still keeps some veneer of actual discussion and actual openess, even if they don't allow me to call other anons names.
I feel like imageboards devolved into a mess of name-calling, circlejerks and closed-mindnessness just as any other site did. /kind/ is one of the places that seems to still avoid it and I like it for it.
No.150
>>143>I have been posting less and less because I started really hating what imageboards turned into although I still post on /kind/ because it is one of the few boards which still keeps some veneer of actual discussion and actual openess, even if they don't allow me to call other anons names.I'll admit that I sometimes like to argue with people, but people do get really bent out of shape nowadays. It's not really as fun the way it was in the old days either. It's definitely true that people seem to be afraid of sincerity nowadays, but at the same time there's also a tendency toward earnest grouchiness. I guess I'm not immune to that, but it feels like something was lost along the way.
>I feel like imageboards devolved into a mess of name-calling, circlejerks and closed-mindnessness just as any other site did.As much as imageboard posters have liked to toot their own horns about being immune to groupthink, it's not like imageboards can't fall victim to that too.
>>148That site isn't the real 8chan.
No.151
>>150I just don't understand how arguing with someone could ever be fun.
I understand how it could possibly be amusing if you're making fun of them in the process.
But it feels like such a waste of time compared to watching a comfy show or going on a cool walk.
Recently I've been reflecting on why I use imageboards, and it's because subconsciously I am quite avoidant of the pain others can cause.
It's not fun to be around most people because it is stressful and you have to defend yourself, your image, your being–and sometimes this feels contradictory to what makes living enjoyable.
So many people have so many psyops about them. Even I have mine.
Mention a single word and you slam the sliding glass door of reason and you get screaming matches.
Imageboards are nice because you can ghost whenever you want if someone is being uppity.
In addition, imageboards are, in some way, more meaningful than pseudonymous counterparts, because at least with imageboards the filters are a little little less and you don't have to step on your words as much.
Both are equally meaningless in terms of how much you change as an individual.
And this is partly why forums are rather sickening, the malaise that people can't point towards.
It's a simple observation: people are stagnant, therefore the world is stagnant.
And we don't know how to help each other anymore because the means of value exchange have been hijacked by governments and vampires.
There are a lot of unfortunate things about community, but it boils down to how most people are useless to one another.
Even if you share interests like drawing or music creation, you're mostly on your own.
No.152
>>151>I just don't understand how arguing with someone could ever be fun.It's a bit of an ego boost if you can throw a bunch of facts at someone they can't refute. Similarly, it gets me looking stuff up and learning new things in the process. At the same time, though, it can get tiresome if it just ends up being a long back-and-forth affair with someone making bad arguments or make so many assumptions you disagree with that it feels like there's no point in even engaging.
>Recently I've been reflecting on why I use imageboards, and it's because subconsciously I am quite avoidant of the pain others can cause.>It's not fun to be around most people because it is stressful and you have to defend yourself, your image, your being–and sometimes this feels contradictory to what makes living enjoyable.So many people have so many psyops about them. Even I have mine.Mention a single word and you slam the sliding glass door of reason and you get screaming matches.
I get what you mean. I still remember the last time I used a conventional forum. It was a place with a somewhat "edgy" sense of humor, but I used the word "faggot" once in reference to homosexuals and got a PM from a moderator telling me not to use it. I think the context might have even been something like "I don't hate faggots," but apparently even people like that still childishly cling to the idea that there are such a thing as no-no words no matter what the context actually is. It would be pathetic even if what I said truly was hateful, and even then I think I might have been having doubts about my sexuality anyway.
After that, I got completely fed up with the idea of trying to maintain some fake persona. If I have to walk on eggshells around people I honestly don't really know, what's the point of being around them anyway? If our mindsets are that different, then we probably don't really all that much in common.
>Imageboards are nice because you can ghost whenever you want if someone is being uppity.Exactly.
No.153
>>152>If I have to walk on eggshells around people I honestly don't really know, what's the point of being around them anyway? If our mindsets are that different, then we probably don't really all that much in common.I forgot that metaphor, but that is perfectly how it feels to interact in some pseudonymous or Official Name contexts–and at times even within anonymous contexts though, again, that beauty about how it is self-contained and that it terminates makes it okay.
A counterpoint to consider is spend enough time in self-contained terminated conversations and one still faces the original issue in a different flavor: instead of trekking a path of eggshells, there's not a path to trek.
i.e. What's the bigger picture of posting here?
I guess the trick is to not get attached to a community for the people, but rather what the community activities are.
No.154
>>151Exactly why I don't use as much imageboards or socialmedia anymore, like the poster after you mentions, I don't need to feed others an egotrip, wherever you're looking theres always a literal "i won against you hah" mentality.
What used to be a break from reallife turned into a worse version, where you don't need to sugarcoat your intentions. Then you get people who get butthurt about not being able to "speak their mind honestly", while really they just want to put others down without consequences. I will miss kind.moe but I won't miss using imageboards as I've seen enough righteous pricks causing harm to others on the account of an egotrip.
Let's be real, you can bring across any point without being a dick, it just takes effort.
No.155
>>150>>151>>152>>153>>154It's funny, I've just started feeling the same way about imageboards and their users, to the point I'm asking "why am I here anymore?" The egos, the group-think, you can't just talk about what's on your mind without it getting derailed because you mentioned the wrong show/music/social media/software/operating system/idea/attitude.
I feel like I've been talking to children, there's really nothing to learn or to gain from those who want you to be just like them, or who want you to be the moron they picture you as. I just want to have conversations for their own sake.
It's nice to see others have noticed this as well.
No.159
>>155>I feel like I've been talking to childrenNewsflash, most people on imageboards are underage.
And the ones who aren't are quite gullible.
But enough complaining, go jogging instead
No.160
>>142>Oh well could have been worse and we could have gone without a board for a whileThat's right. So grateful for the fast wapchan/kind-solution! <3
No.188
>>155I have been having similar experience when it comes to dicussing games and politics. But let's focus on games because the discussion of politics always brings unpleasant things with it.
There are situations in which I would have been called names and shat on just for liking games that aren't necessarily liked by most people on a board. And the problem with that being, they never actually give competent reasons for why a game is bad, usually referring to either some vague ideological idea or relying on group think as if no one could have a differing opinion on an imageboard. It is no different from reddit-type group think to me. Sometimes I feel like I cannot discuss some games because trying to talk about them breaks the image that some anons try to put up of being "edgy" or contrarian to other anons. Some time ago, when 8chan was still a thing I got into Pokemon and tried to ask about some gameplay tips, and was met with a constant stream of insult instead of any geniuent discussion of the games or gameplay. (I don't play Pokemon anymore because the games went to complete shit later on, but I wouldn't shit on an anon just for liking them, I would disagree with them and try to discuss the games, but I wouldn't just scream about it without making an argument)
I hate when people seem to hate certain games just to fit in rather than because of any particular reason. Aren't we supposed to be better than that?
No.194
>>177It helps that a certain person from the last board doesn't seem to have shown up here.
No.199
>>195It's not like they'll go away if you don't acknowledge them. It's better to get things off your chest.
No.201
>>194Don't jinx it, that person knows the shelter and a link to here has been posted there.
>>195I think an important part of kindness is to notice the awful stuff, just as
>>199 said, but also to refuse to partizipate in those things and not let them drive you into despair.
No.202
>>201Understood. I should have watched my words.
No.206
>>205I talk about things I like, I made a big post talking about an analog horror series. I just sometimes complain about things that annoy me.
No.208
>>201What person are you talking about? How can you guys know which posts have been made by the same poster?
No.209
>>208He has a pretty recognizable writing style. I'm not trying to be mean. He was dismissive of the board. That's all I'm going to say for the reasons the other guy mentioned.
No.214
>>210Don't normally eat chips but I did have some sour cream and onion chips last week. It was pretty good.
>Is there a new kindmin yet?We are still waiting.
>>213Ohayou!
No.216
>>215Oops! I mean... hello,
>>213 !
No.217
>>214>>214hai hai
hope you slept well, a good day awaits for those searching for it
No.218
>>210>>214My preference is for plain ridged chips with French onion dip over sour cream and onion chips. I don't necessarily have dip that often though. Usually I just end up eating whatever on the side with a sandwich when I eat chips. I used to eat Flamin' Hot Cheetos all the time, but I cut back on them because I got pretty addicted to them.
No.2551
A cool october morning with a cup of earl gray tea is nice, but its' been all the better with having read this thread.
I will check if there are world filters but if there aren't any its amazing, maybe the first time I have been on an imageboard without seeing a slur (outside of niche interest boards).
No.2556
>>2552>>2553That filter was mostly there to counter the influence of /b/tards who were flooding the board at that time. I felt like they were drowning out a new culture that was still forming. I disagree with that line of thinking now, but I don't mind adding it back if it's just something people enjoy. Furthermore, I added a filter for the neighbor word, so I have an excuse to post this image.
I love my friends and neighbors.
No.2557
>>2556You mean that word? Test if it is. neighbor.
No.2573
>>2556>>2560friendgot should be called husband!
>>2568umm... what's the password?