No.1038
I watched Dune (1984) mainly to watch the original before I watch the latest one and the sequel.
Cool movie although I was a tad confused with some plot points, but I guess that's what happens when a world with, what I'm assuming is rich lore is dumped on you in like 3 minutes and you're just kinda meant to take it along with a big book being made into a 2 hour movie. Some of the actor choices were very interesting. Kyle MacLachlan as Paul is always the one I remember but Jürgen Prochnow (Captain in Das Boot) and Patrick Stewart being in there was really surprising. Not to mention, fucking Sting.
Set design was on point and looks really cool and "out there", something I miss from that period of time. The CG effects were both incredibly crude but also kinda stylish because of how crude they were. The movie had a weird fighting style where they'd activate a blocky translucent brown shield that'd envelope their body and they'd fight with knives and it was strange to see but also somewhat quaint.
I wonder how the new Dune will be, it'd be interesting to compare them since they're about 40 years apart.
Also hearing, what I believe was an electric guitar used in a sort of holy and grand light was actually kinda cool. I've never really heard that instrument be used in that way. It'd be like replacing hymns in a track with an electric guitar twang instead
>>1018Great movie, first Ghibli thing I saw I think.
>>1025As dumb as it sounds I can never watch Wall-E. It destroyed me when I first watched it and then again four years later when I rewatched it. It just makes me think about how lonely I am.
No.1040
>>1038>I watched Dune (1984) mainly to watch the original before I watch the latest one and the sequel. Check out the Spicediver edit if you haven't seen it. It rearranges the structure of the movie and adds in parts from the extended cut and deleted scenes too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faHQA_0d9MoI would recommend that any newcomer to Dune start with the theatrical cut just to understand the reception it got when it came out. Dune is a movie close to my heart, but it's also something of a train wreck.
>The CG effects were both incredibly crude but also kinda stylish because of how crude they were. The movie had a weird fighting style where they'd activate a blocky translucent brown shield that'd envelope their body and they'd fight with knives and it was strange to see but also somewhat quaint.I don't think there were any computer effects in the movie. The special effects for me are one of the weak points of the movie though, like the blocky shields and the scene with the navigator folding space. Another thing that irritates me is the "ornithopters" not moving their wings at all.
>Also hearing, what I believe was an electric guitar used in a sort of holy and grand light was actually kinda cool. I've never really heard that instrument be used in that way. It'd be like replacing hymns in a track with an electric guitar twang insteadPeople say the way electric guitars were used in the music is cheesy, but I've always really liked the soundtrack. It's the only thing I've ever heard from Toto that I've liked.
No.1233
>>1232I think a lot of people liked episode 7 more than they would have normally, because it was the first time in over a decade that a star wars movie had been released. So the hype, and the feeling that star wars could never die, and the fact that it was basically just a rehash of things people already liked, all combined to inflate a lot of peoples impressions. People coming out of the theatre and saying "wow that was great" werent talking about the movie, but rather the excitement of getting more star wars. And in under a month a large portion of that discourse very quickly soured, far more than what happened with the phantom menace. With episode 8, I was bored and even annoyed with what I was seeing, and I think that sentiment is shared by the vast majority of fans (which is why, as is often rumored, solo lost money).
At the very least, its apparent that the folks running the show at lucasfilm and even disney at large lack the necessary talent, skill, passion, and general experience to actual create anything worthwhile, much less good. Coupled with the increasing and overt idealogically focused messaging to the exclusion of all else, and what you end up with is the pure distilled corporate slop thats getting drizzled nonstop into theatres everywhere. Its probably also why every movie now costs 200-300 million dollars to make, despite generally being of such poor quality and failing to bring in audiences so consistently. Its an incredible achievement, really, to not only sink a franchise previously thought to be unstoppable (twice! the other being marvel) but to also destroy the reputation of nearly every single major movie studio and additionally nearly bring a permanent end to an industry almost as old as the medium itself. It's the kind of momentously damaging act that could only be achieved through stupidity, because masterminds capable of such things only exist in the fiction these hacks wish they could write.
No.1234
>>1233I can only speak for myself, I watched Episode 7 for the first time with skepticism but genuinely enjoyed it, and still rewatch it. Now that you mention it, I remember my frustration while watching 8. The ideology and "the message" sicks out like a sore thumb and turns their movies and shows into an extended glorified infomercial.
I feel the same way about the downhill spiral of this media, though I wonder if the real problems lay in the leadership and organization of people and resources in such a way that makes the whole process backwards. Either way, it's frustrating to see people walk in and leach and distort works of passion into their own ends.
No.1235
>>1234When you look into why movies cost so much nowadays the answer is primarily in two areas: movie stars and extravagent services. Movie stars are starightforward, if you pay someone 80 million dollars to be in your movie the budget is obviously going to be high. This is basically never worth it, because there isnt a single movie star who will make you back the money you spent on them. Extravagent services are in a similar vein, you have to house the big shot movie star in the fancy hotel and everyone flies first class etc. but also things like $100,000 non-refundable catering for outdoor shoots during stormy weather, or armies of hr ladies and diversity consultants and other people who dont do anything really but cost $100,000 in salary alone. Its a mixture of incompetent, wasteful spending and also paying lots of money for things that arent actually needed. And of course, the art suffers for it. I'm convinced hollywood needs to crash and burn for this issue to get fixed. Indie projects being successful, like the amazing digital circus recently, gives me hope though. The popularity of stuff like edgerunners as well and other normalfag-tier anime will hopefully sway the market in the right direction soon. If not, then at the very least indie creators can slowly take over and we can get all the cool stuff from fans of the IPs instead.
No.1237
i just watched an improvised musical from off-book! it was... meh. it kind of makes me want to make a movie myself, though! maybe one day...
>>1236that sounds like a cool movie! i think i'll get around to watching it one day. and what is that thing on her hand?
No.1240
>>1235I'm convinced hollywood needs to crash and burn for this issue to get fixed.
Probably. Unless there's a radical change the problems will only spiral in on themselves. Indeed, much of the good stuff we see today are indie content. It may not be professional work, but it has soul. I wonder though, will people recognize and appreciate the indie works, or only settle for the corporate products?
No.1254
>>1245Its definitely true that the indie scene is growing at breakneck pace though.
>>1240I want them to, even if it isn't necessary, for how badly they've mangled nearly everything I cherished in childhood. How much damage they've done to the world through the systematic obliteration of all our modern legends, all our heroes, all our myths and stories out of pure vanity.
No.1272
I found this old collection of VHS tapes and decided to watch them. I got through about 4 tapes. They were mostly Japanese low budget and TV movies. All untranslated. I don't speak Japanese so I had no idea what was going on but some were interesting to just look at. One seemed to be about two guys put in a sealed room with a prison glass divider. On the other side of the glass is a hot girl who's possessed by an evil spirit. The idea is that the guys will fight over her and the evil spirit will leave her body and possess one of them instead.
No.1277
>>1272I wonder if any of them are like borderline lost media
No.1278
>>1277Good point
>>1272Pics?
No.2244
Recently I watched Alien. I have not seen it before. It was pretty good. It had an amazing atmosphere but sometimes the characters behaved so amateurishly, it was a bit hard to watch without complaining. The plot explained some of the odd behaviour but I don't feel like it did justify all.
No.2252
Just rewatched the original star wars trilogy. Really mediocre with return of the jedi being straight bad. As a kid I was only into it because it was a cultural touchstone, and now I've got nothing tying me to it.
No.2253
>>2252Return of the Jedi is almost as forgettable as Attack of the Clones.
No.6481
I watched Memories of Murder (2003) directed by Bong Joon Ho. A South Korean film about detectives hunting for a serial killer in a rural village. This film is very subtle and famous for its surprise ending. There's lots of clever visual story telling, interesting twists, and a fair amount of humor along the way. While your generic cop thriller slowly reveals a hidden truth via science and reason, this movie goes in entirely the opposite direction by turning the detective genre on its head.
Whereas classic detectives like Sherlock Holmes use reason to expose the truth, in Memories of Murder the detectives' rationality obscures reality. They misread clues, see patterns that don't exist, and resort to torture to brute force their theories when they fail to pan out. Rationality is exposed as arbitrary, violent, and incapable of grasping reality. In this sense, Memories of Murder is a piece of post-modern anti-detective cinema.
There's also a subtle layer of political commentary: the South Korean state is constantly carrying out civil defense drills and crushing protests in the name of national security, yet this almighty institution is incapable of protecting ordinary people from a simple murderer. Korean modernity is on trial here. Bureaucracy can't solve social problems, reason doesn't bring psychological comfort, and industrial development creates a level of anonymity and social breakdown that makes it possible for a killer to hide in a crowd.
Highly recommend this movie.