No.50
No and I'm going to eat all the pieces
No.51
>>50I didn't know you were on wapchan, mahjong eater.
No.52
I've tried to play around with mahjong soul a couple of times to learn it a bit but it just gave me some error messages or something. It's a decent game to learn with right or is there something better?
No.53
>>52I guess it's decent enough, I was lucky enough to learn by friends teaching me irl then got better at it using the flash mahjong game against AI and then using a phone app in my spare time.
Not sure why you're getting an error, anon. Might want to try using a different browser to log in and learn from there. I know FFXIV also has a Mahjong aspect to it in the Golden Saucer if for some reason you're playing that.
For me, I just understood it by playing more. Once my friends taught me the basics they threw me into a game and I had to figure it out myself. After finished two rounds I remember watching an episode of Akagi right afterward and being stunned I fucking understood it.
No.54
I've got an autotable in my living room but I'm not very good.
No.55
>>54Damn, that's impressive. How did you come to acquire it?
No.58
>>57Around $275~ USD
The hardest part was getting it back home, the top part comes off the base but it's heavy as heck.
No.59
>>58Damn, that's a steal. Last I checked automatic tables are pretty damn expensive.
I'm still chugging along with my Junkmat I bought for ~£60 and my Mahjong set that was around £80 (plus £20 import tax...), a lot of money but glad I did since I got A LOT of use out of it during university. Taught all my friends how to play, and played weekly with them, hell I even taught the anime society I was president of how to play and they STILL play Mahjong to this day even though I graduated ages ago.
Wish I could play some Mahjong irl more, but it's harder to get everyone together for it.
Also, have a fun image.
No.60
>>59Oh if you're a Bong too maybe you could come over and play (for blood)...
Where there's a will there's a way, I started playing IRL with a set made from blank playing cards with everything drawn on before I got an actual set, and then after that the autotable.
No.61
>>60Perhaps we will, one stormy night...
As for me, I got into Mahjong through luck really. I hung out with a lot of people who knew more about anime that I did and one time they were making fun of someone else we knew who proclaimed to be a "master" of anime, but he didn't know what Akagi was, so I noted the name and watched the entire thing without understanding Mahjong one bit. I remember forcing myself to get through it and wishing I could play a game this complicated.
Next time I saw them I just said "Oh, I saw Akagi and it was good but I didn't understand it" and they were all just like "Hey, we'll teach you how to play, anon". We all lived together next year so they taught me during the first week of my second year, I remember the game we played really well because it was such a struggle to understand it since they just gave me a quick guide and we started playing. Still, when we finished that game (I came second) I remember going back upstairs, watching a random episode of Akagi and having my heart skip a beat because I fucking understood it.
Have you seen/read any other Mahjong related media, like Legendary Gambler Tetsuya or Ten?
No.62
>>61>Have you seen/read any other Mahjong related media, like Legendary Gambler Tetsuya or Ten?I'm something of an "anime master" myself, getting pretty close to running the well dry on English translated anime/manga about mahjong (with the notable exception of various installments of Saki), having watched even such dreck as Idol Fight Suchie-Pai 2 and the Super Real Mahjong OVAs...
I remain hopeful that someone will translate Super Zugan (properly) within my lifetime. That or I learn enough moon to watch it...
No.63
>>61Glad that everyone else watched Akagi without knowing shit about how to play Mahjong. I really loved it, and I kind of wanted to learn, it's just a shame that I've got nobody who cares about the game.
No.64
>>62Very nice, I try and keep an eye out for any Mahjong related anime and manga but usually come up short, although I will say that if you haven't seen Episode 49 of Gintama, you should give that a shot since it's just a gambling episode with an Akagi parody in it for some reason. It's the only episode I've ever seen for that reason.
>>63Best way to learn is to play actual games I found, Mahjong Soul is how people do it these days but I remember spending tons of time using the Flash Mahjong game (fuck Adobe). Even if you don't know what you're doing it's still the best way to just understand it. Maybe if this thread has some more posters we can get a game going.
No.65
Ron
No.68
>>65>>67Alright, you, that's a chombo. 4000/8000 all.
No.69
Ah yes, Mahjong, that wonderful game from ancient China.
I still don't get {the rules} anyway.
No.70
>>69It's not too hard, it really does just require playing the game. A simplified way to describe it is that you start with 13 tiles, then draw one and figure out how to get to a set of 4 sequences/triplets and one pair, decide which tile is useless to you at that point and discard it. Every player is basically trying to make a legal hand by doing this and usually takes around 10 turns to do it on average.
The calls you can make (Chi/Pon/Kan) can help speed up your hand. You call Chi when you want to steal a tile to make a sequence (you have 2-3, someone drops 1, you call chi and steal it). You can Pon for Triplets (2-2, someone drops a 2) and Kan for when you a triplet and someone drops another (2-2-2, someone drops a 2). These all act as a permanent sequence in your hand you cannot remove. You call Ron if someone discards your winning tile, and Tsumo if you draw it yourself.
That's pretty much the basics without going into legal hands, calculating points and things like Han. You can understand it the more you play. If we ever get some more traffic around here I wouldn't mind hosting some online games via Mahjong Soul or whatever.
No.71
>>70Thank you for the explanation, Mr. Anon. A game of mahjong with everyone sounds quite nice
No.73
>>72I think we'd need to figure out a time for four of us to be on?
No.74
>>61I got into mahjong because I got a set of tiles for my birthday. I didn't know how to play but me and one friend learned how to play and then taught some of my other friends. We play riichi mahjong irl every other week and it's the highlight of my week.
No.75
>>74Very nice, anon. I miss playing Mahjong with the bros every weekend. I really want to again when I eventually sort my life out and move in with a friend so we become the center meeting point of our friend group.
Back in uni I used to play every weekend and it was great, Saturday's were tons of fun where we'd all get together, put on some vidya music for background noise, play some Jong, eat some food halfway through and watch some random show I had on my computer. Used to last from around 6pm till 11pm and I miss it dearly.
Keep up the weekly Mahjong, you'll miss it if it's gone.
No.280
no, but that doesn't stop me from trying to win a match at the gold saucer
>>52you could try playing Saikyo No Mahjong 3D, there should be an english patched version floating around on archive.org
No.289
I play a bunch, we've got something of a family tradition now where me and some of my younger siblings will descend on my parents' house every few weeks for a few games. It's not riichi rules though, in fact it's not even Chinese rules, it's a sort of bastardisation of them that we slowly sort of decided on over time.
I wish I did know riichi though - I go on MahjongSoul and just have no idea what's going on some of the time. Might give Saikyo no Mahjong 3D a shot, see if I can set the AI opponents to go easier on me...
What's the recommended reading order for Akagi and Ten? I know Akagi is set earlier chronologically but Ten (I think?) came out first?
No.290
>>289What do you find hard about Riichi? If you understand how to play any kind of Mahjong (4 sequences and a pair) then all you need to understand after that is Yaku which is like legal hands in poker. Pic related is all legal hands with examples.
Once you understand that you know 99% of riichi Mahjong beyond dumb things like actually calculating han/fu and weird rules like how 4 wind discards by every player resets the round or how if you have 9 disconnected tiles/honors you can reset the round by calling your hand invalid.
>What's the recommended reading order for Akagi and Ten? I know Akagi is set earlier chronologically but Ten (I think?) came out first?It depends honestly. I think Akagi has some references to Ten but I can't remember. You are right though, Ten was made before Akagi but Akagi is the prequel series.
I'd say the best way would be to watch the anime, continue onwards from there in the manga and then read the rest through Ten since Ten is kind of the finale for Akagi's story as well as the start of Hero and Ten's story, then you've got the Hero manga which isn't made by FKMT but is an official sequel to Ten and THEN you've got Mamiya which is a sequel made by FKMT in the Akagi universe but that is still being published.
So yeah Akagi anime -> Akagi Manga Chap 110 -> Ten -> Hero (not necessary though) -> Mamiya
No.301
>>289>What's the recommended reading order for Akagi and Ten? I know Akagi is set earlier chronologically but Ten (I think?) came out first?They were both being published simultaneously for most of their respective runs so it doesn't really matter too much.
>>75God I wish my friends were autistic enough to bother learning mahjong, but I'm afraid it's too hard of a sell for most of them.
No.302
>>301Could always ask them to. Having a physical set and mat helps to really set the mood and atmosphere as opposed to just doing it online. Plus you can help them understand it and check their hands and stuff. I've found it's also a very social game since we'd usually be talking about stuff too and I do that less when playing online with friends.
Make sure to have music on hand as well, the Akagi OST was great for starters but I eventually branched out into making my own playlist of music (mostly vidya).
No.303
>>302Thanks anon that's pretty encouraging.
Soundtracks do sound like a good idea for music too as it tends to flow a bit better into the background and doesn't overpower conversation too much (also am I remembering wrong or was one track from the Akagi OST straight up Starless by King Crimson?)
No.304
>>301See, I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I think my friends are TOO autistic to bother learning mahjong.
No.305
>>303Yeah, you don't always need the Akagi OST if you've heard it a bunch. Anything to set the mood is great. Also taking a break when the winds change to get some food and watch some stuff together can be great. I used to show my friends some old Seinfeld episodes and they enjoyed them while we ate Chinese or something.
> (also am I remembering wrong or was one track from the Akagi OST straight up Starless by King Crimson?)Hahahaha, never heard that track before and when I went to check it's exactly like these themes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPjzjWxwctMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruwbNpJKmgkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZTtK_JVm_g>>304Show them Kaiji, the nudge them towards Akagi and once they've got the FKMT autism they'll want to learn.