/digi/ - 2000s Anime & Manga

Looking back on it, it's crazy how popular Haruhiism used to be. I miss it.

It feels strange how stuff from the 2000s is considered retro now. I feel old.

>>230
I feel the same way, but it depends on the context. 2000s TV or music, for example, don't feel "retro" to me. But pre-Web 2.0 Internet culture does

>>230
I remember one time in 2010 when I was talking to a guy and he said "I like older anime, like Haruhi"

I felt ancient, and I was in college at the time.

Probably because internet allows people to listen to music and watch stuff from a bunch of different eras. It doesn't feel retro because it never really went away. A lot of US TV series from the 90s and 2000s lasted forever too (CSI, NCIS etc). This is probably why people have this idea that today's content is 100% worse. We're always comparing today's shows with the classics.

In some ways I miss the 2000s. If you came from the Middle East in those years were absolute hell but culturally stuff was much more sensible. When the internet was new there really wasn't a good idea for how people should use it. So people just made stuff up as they went along. Because big social media juggernauts didn't exist there was more leeway for filmmakers, animators, mangaka, or game designers. Stuff wasn't as mass market and corporations weren't surveying Twitter for opinions. It's hard imaging some of the stuff made back then getting the greenlight today.

What does bug me is the way there is this culture of remembrance for things that happened in the 2000s (facebook, myspace emos) while other stuff has been memoryholed (e.g. 4chan antics, Iraq war). Flip phones, external computer speakers or RSS feeds were a thing everybody used but most ordinary people have completely forgotten about them.

>>232
Internet culture is more ephemeral than real life so it's always going to feel older.

>>241
Also doesn't help that most site moderation is quite ban happy these days and there are too many idiots that are more than happy to fedpost and derail discussions.

>>230
>join anime group club thing
>can't relate to any of the stuff they talk about
It's over guys I'm no longer with it.

>>245
You're out of touch

>>245
>"oh yeah, have you seen [insert random moonrune title here]"
No, but I uh.. watched Lupin last night, and redownloaded all of Kenshin.
>Oh, you're not a real anime fan then if you don't know [title]
I was pirating anime on VHS for friends before you could even reliably download more than one episode a night.

>>273
> you're not a real anime fan then if you don't know [title]
I feel you. There are a lot of shows I didn't watch because they don't interest me. So, what? Having watched more than 350 titles, but not having seen Gundam, Bleach, Naruto, Sword Art Online, Demon Slayer or whatever invalidates that? At one point you just watched so much, you will be able to tell if you will like something or not. Of course there will still be surprises now and then, but most of the time you will be able to guess it right.
On another note, with every passing year it gets more annoying how stuff gets hyped and shoved into your face. Seeing something everywhere really makes me go ballistic lately.

>>274
the two most toxic fanbases i've seen is anime and horror, both for that same reason.

>>245
Let me guess, they only talked about flavor of the month shows and the big shounens?
>>273
Who are you talking to? You shouldn't discuss anime with arrogant newfags.
>>274
I used to let myself be peer pressured into watching shows that don't interest me, but I stopped once I became an adult and understood that time is limited. For me personally, it's about being willing to check things out but only if they interest me, and dropping immediately if I don't find it interesting. It's not about seeing how many animu you can watch, it's about actually enjoying the show and appreciating its merits.
>On another note, with every passing year it gets more annoying how stuff gets hyped and shoved into your face. Seeing something everywhere really makes me go ballistic lately.
I'd suggest staying on forums/imageboards/matrix channels with a smaller population and not a large pph (older demographic is a plus). Of course you get people talking about new stuff, but you will also have people talking about older titles as well.

>>216
Anyone else read the original novels?: I have the first one and was considering rereading it. I find it interesting how much more oriented it is towards general sci-fi tropes and speculative metaphysics, over being anime otaku focused like I had expected. I can kind of understand why Haruhi herself was appealing, though I don't quite understand how to express it.

No one's broached the most pressing question: how do you guys feel about KyoAni's adaptation decisions (Kyon order and Endless Eight)?
I like the non-chronological order and think it's something that rewards repeat viewings, so I never liked that they tried to walk it back with the 2009 broadcast order, especially when Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody is such a perfect opener for season two and the books aren't even published chronologically. The style change and new opening are also kind of jarring when juxtaposed with the first season.

>>315
I read the first one last year. The main thing that stood out to me was how horny Kyon is for Haruhi. It's been a while since I saw the anime but I remember him being more reserved.
I want to read the other books, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

>Seeing something everywhere really makes me go ballistic lately.
Thanks, added to my ESL dictionary of golden expressions.

>>317
You are welcome, even if I don't know what an ESL dictionary is. Anyway, I don't even know where to start. Since Corona so many new people came to the Internet, who didn't even do it in the 2010s, where it was already very accessable to them. It shows how bored many were and a lot of them stayed on the Net, the influx being downright terrible. With nowadays mentality and possibilities stuff gets carried to almost every corner of the Internet. One of the reasons why I love Wapchan is because they don't parrot and overhype things. It truly feels like humans are posting here, that somebody is here who thinks before they post. That some very annoying posters, who shit into serveral imageboards everyday, are also not here helps a lot as well. Bless this place, it's administration and users. Still, if /kind/ would have started to watch Frieren 3 months ago, I would have lost my temper completely. Flavour of the month/season/year, I hate it so much, I can't tell you how much I do, there are no words for that. Most people don't care about anime, video games, music, books and so on like they used to. Hopping from one thing to the next, if it doesn't get a sequel in a year or two it's forgotten, sitting there with it's distgustingly bloated score and reviews, but nobody remembers it if you ask about it. No appretiation for the medium, it's characters, writing, atmosphere, gameplay, mechanics, creators. It was already so absolutely unbearable in 2015 - 2019 with m-muh politics, but 2020 - 2024 amplified everything with those new users The charm was that online is a different world than offline, now it's just an extention, everything from offline was brought into online.

>even if I don't know what an ESL dictionary is
I'm ESL (English Second Language) and I keep a local dictionary where I write down obscure phrases and words which are not very easy to google.
>that somebody is here who thinks before they post
That's exactly the reason why I shouldn't be allowed here, I have impaired ability to think, so sometimes I go dissociative and... I post, but it's like it's somebody else who posts instead of me. Not exactly quality content you expect probably. Just so you know I'm half dissociated right now, so I don't fully account for my actions. I strongly remember there was a very neat phrase to say that you are doing something without being fully conscious, but I can't remember it unfortunately. You know, I like to escape to English spoken places, because some (undisclosed) trauma makes me feel bad about talking to people in my own language, but often times I don't feel human when speaking English. I can't explain. When you speak your native, you "feel" it, when I speak English, I feel nothing, merely a stream of empty words that just so happen as to have a meaning. There are certain words, like love or hate or suffering, which make me feel something significant when I utter them native, but in English, I don't feel them at all. It makes me feel like a machine and doesn't help my overall condition at all. Woe to you, Wapchan, here I come, and I entreat you, for the love of God, unleash your BanHammer and purge the evils that's me, for there is no other way out and no other remedy! Only the holy powers of Erasure and Bad can save your site from be! Woe to you, don't hesitate to defend your home from scroungers like me!
>No appretiation for the medium, it's characters, writing, atmosphere, gameplay, mechanics, creators.
AFAIK it is a bidirectional process, which kind of makes me sad. When I read books I immediately notice how much quality of fantasy dropped recently. It was so good and comfy in 60-80's and even in 90's probably, but the last decade or so it's been an abomination. Even respectable authors which I cherish went downhill falling for these American cliches, which are supposed to make your writing good, when in fact they make it recyclable junk not worth time whatsoever. But it's not like good things from the past are unending, so here I am consuming junk and only quietly complaining on some obscure threads, mostly because nobody cares for my tastes anyway, and also because I forgot how to enjoy human interaction and don't want to introduce anyone in my tastes, all the while being unhappy that I can't allow myself to talk about a book I've read or about a game I've played or whatever. Still end up doing some meager posts, but no interaction with anyone at all. Had a friend recently, but of course I ruined it, so I'm back on track of retaining and sperging out in random place like I'm doing right now. As one anon said, too many words, too little input. I'm really just rambling and can't really stop. I bet whoever cares can easily track me down anywhere as I visit quite a number of altchans, but I keep my woes to a limited set of those I find comfy enough. Mainly I seek places where people wouldn't harass me, because if you want to pick up a fight with me, there are plenty of places where I'd exhibit my dictionary of expletives to you, but if I'm rambling, I don't want any of that. I just want to type words and be left alone, because as much as I was in denial, I figured out there are no people who could help my condition by saying something to me. Words don't work. That's why you should get rid of me right away. If my present home dies there is a big chance I might settle here to lead my worthless blog of things with no meaning. Honestly, how much have I said in all these words? And you don't know what's worst. The worst is that I can't stop. I know I must not post it, but I will click the button nonetheless. That's what it's like when free will dies. Not really a nice feeling, watching your hands type things all the while realizing you're just an observer and don't really take part in the process in that sense that you can't interrupt it. Maybe I need Misaki to come and beat the shit out of me every time I open an imageboard. But I'm afraid people like me are of no use to Misakis.

I want to fuck Nagato while Haruhi watches. Older Misaki is my first in command bitch, the mistress or madaam of my harem. Tsuruya and the Asakura can spectate. I've been thinking about this for over ten years on and off.