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 No.2322

How many of you are feeling you've reached this point?

My twenties are coming to a close and it seems like I've been passively channeled out the front-door from various communities. As the age gap between me and the average poster stretches, the less inclination I have towards behaviors I'd use for entertainment or the illusion of social fulfillment through parasocial habits. Stuff like shitposting, memes, and your general imageboard behavior just aren't having the same positive effect as they once had, not helped by most online communities continuing to decline as of the date of this post.

Leaves me wondering what comes next for people like me who were effectively raised on the net. I guess I could lean into what hobbies I've developed over the years and find a sense of community out of the net? That seems to me at the moment the only practical solution unless I resign myself to almost certainly becoming a bitter anon unenthusiastically posting among kids and husks. That sounds a lot like rotting in real time.

Hopefully I'll be able to come back to this thread with a positive solution one day.

 No.2324

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Breaks from the Internet are increasingly longer and feel better. Returns to the Internet are increasingly shorter and feel worse. It's beginning to look like offline is the future for those of us hoping to retain or repair what spirit remains. The magic won't return. If I decide to seek companionship for hobbies I'm at the point I'll pay to advertise in shop windows over trying online. The Internet is too easy to sink back into, despite its harm, because it's everywhere and requires no exertion, sitting in a chair and pressing keys to receive some acknowledgement that you exist. The Internet is a self-imposed torture chamber filled with unavoidable lunatics ranting and raving about tragedies and outrages which have no affect on the lunatic's life because they are almost always not local or regional to the lunatic, or even in a language the lunatic understands.

 No.2325

>>2322
>>2324
I share yours sentiments, and I've also come to accept the solution of moving on and seeking new pastures. Times change, and we change with them, as the adage goes. Now that the innocence of youth has dried up, it's becoming increasingly harder to experience such instances of cheeriness as those so promptly produced by our memory while remembering the early years on the net.

It used to feel like a refuge. At present, however, it feels more like yet another torturous manifestation of routine and inertia and social engineering. Engaging in it provides some cursory relief, but usually leaves a sour aftertaste, and I don't expect that sensation to change anytime soon, much less considering the current cultural tendencies.

 No.2326

Wasted my youth indoors fucking around on imageboards with people who hated me with nothing good to show for it. All I ended up with is a sense all other forms of communication don't feel "right", and a reflexive nostalgia for the ephemeral culture of "the old days" even though they sucked.

I couldn't change with the times. So almost a decade ago now I exclusively started hanging out on tiny, dead, or dying IBs as my sole form of communication. The more insulated, the more they seemed like a still frame of how it used to be. Magicchan the primary one. When that went down, what came next for me was just to quit. For little more than a year I had no contact with anyone. As long as I just did things I actually liked doing, like playing games or reading manga I did actually feel better than when I would post on the net.

Though it's likely different for you. For me socialization on the net has never really been something rationally undertaken because it benefited. Just more of a animal instinct I can't override even if it is to my detriment. I don't know if anyone else here is like that, I used think that some mage types were but that may just have been projection.

 No.2327

I just browse a couple of websites and even those I have no real purpose visiting. Everything is either kids or people with kids or sex or money. It's all so alienating. But I guess I never really had a place there anyway, I always felt like an outsider no matter sites I went to. Going offline would be great but I keep finding excuses not to.

 No.2328

>>2327
I feel the same way you do. I visit several IBs daily, but very rarely post or connect with their users. Once in a while I find something funny or interesting, but that doesn't really justify the habit.

 No.2344

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>>2326
>Wasted my youth indoors fucking around on imageboards with people who hated me
Why do you feel like people on imageboards hated you? Were you avatarfagging, tripping, or had a really distince retarded posting style. I've legit been gangstalked just for not being part of discord groups and not affiliated with anyone made me an easy target I guess.

 No.2352

>>2344
Sorry I do not communicate well. The users of those sites didn't really "know" me or who I was. They hated losers like me. They would have hated me if they knew me, but because of the anonymity they didn't. Only when I made the mistake of revealing anything about myself did they know to show their displeasure at my existence. We were not friends, or comrades, or like-minded, or similar, or anything of that sort. We were enemies calling out to each other separated only by a thin fog of war.

 No.2367

Online: bad loneliness, e-schizophrenia from bombardment of outside images/sounds/thoughts.
Offline: good loneliness, quiet mind.

 No.2381

Really feeling that thread, ouch.

>>2327
> going offline would be great but I keep finding excuses not to.
I don't even come up with excuses to stay online, I just don't know what to do offline so I am online. Honestly, I hate it. The only things that are still enjoyable for me is downloading something I was searching for, looking up some information and the few posts a year when I feel really bad and try to cling to some stranger on an imageboard, who more or less understands me.

 No.2475

This has to be the most relatable thread I've read in the last 3 years. Really reaching the end myself. I wish I could know how OP and every mage who replied is doing. The future is so bleak.

 No.2501

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>>2475
I am the OP, and I'm having a hard time believing it's already been over a year since making this thread. I even remember the day of making this thread vividly. I am semi-active in a few old-school style forums, but they're only of interest for those truly knowledgeable. I mostly use the internet for practical, effortposting media discussions, and educational purposes now. Ironically, how I idealized I should have used it back when I was around a decade younger, hikineet, and spent most of the time posting shitposts and smug anime girls.

I guess I did end up "leaving" imageboards for good at least compared to spending the majority of my free time for several years solely on them, also wasting my time watching completely useless slop on youtube. I'll still peek a few places for no more than a few minutes, but it's so infrequent. Would it still be considered lurking?
One thing that really confuses me is how all these "refuges" have slowed or just flat-out kicked the bucket. Data reveals there a lot more isolated and disenfranchised men than there were just a decade ago, so where are they, why aren't they posting in places like these, and why aren't there more sites trying to keep the old spirit web alive.
But I guess there's criticism that can be said about doing that as many "webcore" sites may come across as superficial or trying too hard.

I had the foresight years ago to know if I spent so much time getting most of my social needs fix on imageboards I would likely reach a point where I'd become disillusioned from them and effectively left crippled in aspects such as social skills, life experience, etcetera.
That did end up being my case anyway but I agreed to take a job shortly after making this thread where I worked in front of hundreds and crowds of children and people everyday while Initially being a barely functional depressive wreck, with traces of my formerly severe social phobia.
I ended up being very well-liked, children loved me, and I was tipped more than I ever even imagined possible for someone like be. Just being tipped at all was incomprehensible for the first few months(and still looking back). I am not a good-looking man by any means, but I try to live as having a heart of gold despite having dealt with many, many truly vile people throughout these years. I was always fascinated by how adaptable people can be.
I have since left that job amicably and now just saving up as much as I can while working on some things on the side. My experience in the various occupations I have had in my 20s has confirmed my deep-down lifelong suspicions I would likely only prosper on my own directives and resources, so that's the goal. Recent technological advancements have made this much more feasible.

I remember when I was still a teen and early twenties, I would see older posters on sites like tohno, and I enjoyed the long posts they made, sometimes even revealing some wisdom. I would even recognize their writing styles in other places and even follow them for a bit. They would be in their late 30s by now, and nearly all have had their online presence disappear. One or two I have noticed and can still find have jumped the shark on spiritualism, religon, or even somewhat concerning esotericism, maybe filling a void? I don't really see much of this type of blog posting anymore, and I do miss it.

Wrapping this personal update up, I think that for a especially damned minority of an already nearly non-existent minority of us, there is no external help for us. Some have the privilege of getting help from their social support group or agencies like vocational rehabilitation and social disability. Others like me try in good faith but are met with nothing but run-arounds or just flat-out scorn for even having the audacity to reach out for scraps that could possibly mean everything compared to what we currently have or don't.
For the very few who know exactly what I am talking about, i just want to remind you that you're not the only one going thru all this. It is all excruciating, pointless even, and it really does seem like literally everything wants you dead but I honestly don't want that for you. It would hurt ME deeply knowing it isn't what you actually want to do.
The only advice I can give is discover and realize who you are and appreciate your resilience.
Face the world, experience, experiment, and maybe reading some of the texts that shaped the fundamentals of psychology and psychotherapy will help guide you. Because there's no one coming for me and you, true empathy and compassion will be few and far between, and "help" will often be disappointing. Coming to full-terms on this helps prevent bitterness, personal corruption, and resentment from developing.
It's impossible to predict just how bad things may get for you, but they can and will.

 No.2507

>>2501
One or two I have noticed and can still find have jumped the shark on spiritualism, religon, or even somewhat concerning esotericism, maybe filling a void?
Can you elaborate?

 No.2515

>>2501
>also wasting my time watching completely useless slop on youtube.
It feels shameful to admit how many hours I've probably lost staring blankly at Youtube videos. I think if Youtube kept track of how many hours you spend on it like Steam does I would smash my computer immediately upon seeing the number of hours I've wasted watching the most disgustingly wretched slop. I imagine I've wasted years of time on that god awful website gaining nothing from it, I don't enjoy my time watching those videos, I don't get any knowledge from it, I am just wasting time watching some guy talk about nonsense that I don't actually care about. It would probably do me a lot of good to completely cut that website out of my life.

 No.2517

I'm deeply mentally ill. I stopped enjoying imageboards years ago but I do it because it's the one way to fulfill my social urges that I can handle. I am too weak to handle real life or real relationships with people. I avoid people whether I want to or not because it has been ingrained into my soul to do so. I hate doing nothing all day, browsing shit websites filled with people I hate every day, but it's all I'm left with because I don't have the energy or drive to do anything else. I want to do something, anything else, I have for years now, but I'm too stuck in the rut. It's funny, wizchan went down so here I am, going down progressively obscure and dead imageboards just because I am addicted. I hope all these sites die and I'm left with nothing so I either change or I bash my head into a wall until all the juice leaks out.



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