No.2863
I really hate people who put milk in tea. They need to be punished for their crimes.
No.2875
>>2871Could very well be both. The one thing I've noticed is that women can be very honest and upfront about appearance and usually it's a good idea to listen to their opinions if it feels genuine enough. I remember in high school some girls essentially told me I'd be really handsome if I had various changes to my look like styling my hair or wearing better fitting clothes and they told me to do so much it came across as more of an insult at the time. Turns out I basically wasn't paying attention to my appearance at all and as I gradually did more and more of what they said subconsciously I realized it was just honest advice and I felt better about myself.
It was genuinely good advice. still don't feel good looking, but if you grow up ugly most of your life that might never change. Maybe if you actually asked for fashion advice from women it'd be something you'd enjoy.
No.2876
>>2871Also yes, going bald can look very good.
No.2881
> Vent thread up
> Second post already wOmEn
I guess now I know why this version of kind didn't have a vent thread for so long.
No.2885
>>2884You do that on purpose and think it looks good? Some people I will never understand. My theory was it's something done on accident by phoneposters. Do you also do that thing where you put a new line between the post number and text?
>>2884Like this
No.2887
>>2885No, I don't to that as well. but I can write like this.
Do you like that?
Funny, right?
Also calling them meme arrows? Did greentexts take too much of a toll on you? It's a feature of imageboards for quoting. And yes, it's wOmEn. Why give a shit? Just have your hair how you like it, as long as they are grommed and not dirty or greasy. There will always be somebody who likes it and somebody who dislikes it.
No.2888
I wish I could be more affectionate to people, but that'd be weird.
>>2885>>2887Behave, you two!
No.2892
>>2886>As you can see, I do not do thatFair enough. I've seen people do it intermittently too. Might be a random bug or something.
>Why is it so surprisingI had never thought of email as a good model for posts on an imageboard. Now I've seen the light. I must admit my disgust towards emailfriends was a manifestation of unconscious bias, bigotry and maybe even fascism towards an underrepresented minority. Their posts may look a little strange but they're just like the rest of us goddammit! As reparations I'll donate my life savings to the email service of your choosing.
>>2887>It's a feature of imageboards for quotingYou made two statements and didn't quote anyone.
>And yes, it's wOmEnNo, my problem was the confusion I felt not the women. You're out to lunch if you think that was a resentful rant against women.
>Why give a shit?I put effort into my hair and had it the way I liked. No one cared who I was until I shaved off the hair.
No.2895
>>2889what was it about?
>>2888i mean, you don't have to be very affectionate right away. you can take small steps…
>>2893for an e-mail address, cock.li sounds like a terrible name…
No.2951
Wanted to eat healthier so I'm on the second week of trying vegetarian and quitting diet soda.
I'm miserable and miss chicken corn dogs, I've tried fake meat/tofu alternatives and they are expensive as well as disgusting.
Only thing I am enjoying is making my own fries with no oil, didn't know they'd turn out so well in my air fryer.
No.2963
Lost another chess game.
I need to work on my mental game.
>>2863This but with coffee.
No.2965
>>2951can you eat cheese or eggs? if so, how about making a grilled cheese sandwich (with eggs)?
>>2964drink lots of water and sleep well then! make sure to get plenty of vitamin c in too!
>>2963hmmm… how do you play chess?
No.2969
>>2965Please don't post AI art on wapchan.
No.2989
>>2965I hate it when they say 100% orange juice but when you see at the ingredient listing, it only has 10% fresh orange juice and the rest is plain water. Even worst, everything inside the juice is artificial flavor.
No.2993
>>2990bleh isn't enough to describe it. It tastes really bitter and nothing like actual orange juice
No.2997
>>2996Probably should post it here on wapchan. This sites's been getting pretty active while keeping the undesirable elements of IB culture out.
No.3002
>>2998If I think of something funny I make OC, and I have various hobbies, and I write. I think it's important to try and make good posts, and part of making good posts is picking the right place to post them, so it's kind of an unavoidable struggle.
No.3006
/pol/tards coming to my cafe and causing trouble
No.3160
Ban me without banning me. I dare you. This thing makes me feel pain. Did philosophers solve it already or am I going uncannily crazy?
No.3163
>>3161Thank you friend together we will brave this storm!
No.3208
>>3203I appreciate the kind words, but there is no chance of me finding someone to be with in the snow, not even with the extra snow that's fallen here recently. It was less about that moment and moreso that I don't have anyone to share anything with and I don't now how to find someone I can have that connection with. I have a lot of community hobbies and such that I'm involved in, and I've tried to connect to the people in all of those, and with people online, but the connection never works out. It starts fizzling out by the time the first year has passed. It doesn't feel right to not have at least an arms-length friend, but I don't know what else I can do. I don't want to be alone, but I don't seem to have a choice for now. Winter is not the only season. There is the fresh lakes of Spring, the warm open fields of Summer, the colored forests of Autumn. I have ample opportunity to share the world with a friend, whenever they arrive. Remember, /kind/ers, an opportunity is never squandered if you are there to experience it, even if it doesn't go the way you would like for it to.
Unrelated, it is nice seeing Japanese text on the signs in that remake. I don't know why people are so much more complacent with overbearing localization in Pokemon games and beyond when compared to any other Japanese product.
>>3196Why would anyone want to pass on Wapchan anyway?
No.3209
I feel lonely most of the time and feel like no one enjoys my company, and also think it's because of me, i want to change
No.3215
>>3211Not that anon, but…
figamin…
you have my respect.
No.3220
>>2858>What ails you, friend?I've got my second child due in May and I'm panicking a bit.
With one kid I can take turns with my wife an dhave a little break, but with two it's going to be relentless.
I'm excited but I'm going to be so tired.
No.3233
>>3211>>3220epic!! and
>>3220, congrats on the baby!
>>3221yeah, i know how that feels…
No.3240
I gotta write 5,000 words in 24 hours. Wish me luck.
No.3244
Why is it so hard for people to understand basic cybersec?
Sensible informations put on post-its that can be read and taken by eveyone;
computers left open unguarded and with the important windows still open;
passwords that are literally "1234";
admin login pages that can be accessed through Google;
people opening sketchy emails;
people clicking on sketchy links;
people downloading sketchy software;
worst of all: people that insert USB pens that have "play me" written on them.
Is it really that hard to use your brain, 90% of hacking is social engineering and only the remaining 10% is coding. Is it really that hard to understand that hackers are not magicians and the only way they have success in hacking is thanks to exploiting vulnerabilities? Just use commons sense and a little of responsbility ffs.
No.3251
There needs to be books on hugging techniques somewhere
No.3253
i've spent years making myself seem "normal" enough to function in the real world, to great success. before, i was in and out of the looney bin, self harmed, did drugs, hated myself and my life. nowadays i have IRL norman friends, i have a fine job, i go to school, i go for social outings, i even lift weights. but no matter how much i do i never really feel "real". i don't know how else to describe it. is this really who i am? who i should be? am i really being myself or am i just shaping myself into whatever works out of practicality? i don't know how to genuinely be me. i don't think i SHOULD genuinely be myself, in fear that it'll fuck up everything i've worked so hard for. i've had the mask on for so long i don't know how to take it off, nor do i remember what it was like before i put it on. i only feel truly honest when i send my thoughts into the anonymous void like this. i have no real sense of community, and what's left of my family has fallen apart. i'm grateful to have friends and family who care about me but they're all at arms length and i don't even think i want that to change. at the end of the day i still end up alone in my room. i dream of leaving everyone and everything behind to move somewhere far away and be someone new.
i don't even know if i'm making sense. it's late, i'm sorry.
No.3261
I’m loosing interest in manga and anime. I don’t like anything where there are female characters showing skin but I’m usually lenient on 2D content. So much manga anime is unhappy. ’ve sold off my collection of albums too. Will probably give away other stuff too when I get time. I just feel overwhelmingly sad at the world. I can’t seem to explain.
No.3262
>>3244computers are hard, i guess…
>>3261i'm pretty sure yewtube has videos on hugging techniques, though.
>>3253it's alright. we're the same…
>>3261maybe it's because the world is not like anime…?
No.3268
>>3253what did you gain by becoming normal? you have worked so hard to stick with the people, but was it really worth it?
No.3271
>>3262No. I just like anime less and less.
No.3272
>>3253I'm sorry life leaves you without direction. It is true that not all desires we have are good desires, and we can't expect our loves and wants to work out without discernment and discipline. Sometimes you will have to completely abandon the things you love because they're unhealthy for you and for the people around you. Many of the things you like will require intense cultivation and moderation to come into their true, most lovely form. As nice and necessary as relaxing is, you should by no means expect your hobbies to flourish and grow and be able to be explored to their fullest on their own, without putting in the effort to understand them truly; you can't expect to be happy with all that you do if you're not willing to kill your darlings, so to speak. What is equally true, however, is that often no one will appreciate your loves nor the person you are. Not everyone appreciates being loved or being genuine or being vulnerable or being open. A lot of people seem allergic to or anxious about someone being their real selves, revealing their true thoughts and their hurts and what they see in the world and so on. It is true, from what I've done, that being in a community often means bottling the person you are deep inside and humoring them for whatever stupid, silly things they like to come together for. I can't tell you what you need to do. All I can really tell you is what I've done. I've tried my whole life to be unapologetically myself, to divulge myself to others and improve my personhood and sharpen my interests, because I find it appalling to be a suck-up to other people to fit in. While I find personal growth in this, the only thing I seem to reap from my behavior is isolation and loneliness. I feel like giving in and just doing what everyone else does is wrong, but taking the hut in the woods route feels more wrong. I don't know what to do.
If there is any solace that I can give you, it is that you will always have plenty opportunity to be yourself with yourself. You don't have to hide from who you are. If the only person you can ever be true with is you, then that's fine; not everyone needs to know the truth. Indulge in this. God bless, 3253-san.
>>3261>>3271I used to listen to a lot of super hard music in high school, but as I've aged my music taste has grown softer, so I've been weening out my CDs from then. I feel like my own anime tastes are so out of vogue, though it's because I tend to like older, more mature stuff. Not Berserk-like depressing, but A Drifting Life-like depressing. Even iyashikei, the healing genre, is usually steeped in apocalypse and other such topics. I feel like manga is either that kind of thing or just action-fighting stories. Not liking that stuff anymore is valid (and it is normal to age out of it, from what I hear,) but I hope you can find something else to direct yourself towards.
No.3278
>>3272>super hard musicPlease put in at least a few decent recommendations for me.
No.3280
>>3278This is the kind of music I used to listen to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qntP7XDocI0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIytZr7XelUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbg76x9S4ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixrA0k12eMI&list=PLH22-xSMERQoVsmSl8VPKdsRJG_5q70t9&index=3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM7fGraz9wUI can't stand this kind of music anymore, so I can't tell you how it is. The only kind of music like this I can even tolerate is Tesseract and this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW-86qZp07MThere is one harder band that I do like, but I really only like their softer album (which was their last) and it's mostly because they sing about Christianity anyway. If you're interested,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgCTwTV-IQ4 No.3283
>>3268to be honest, it's not like nothing has been gained. i am a more confident person, much more productive, and i'd sayeven more clearheaded. it's also nice to have people to rely on when you need them. but as much as i appreciate them, i often still feel isolated and as if i can only show them part of myself. if i'm being honest, that post was made in a moment of weakness as i go through a breakup. i was a bit stricken with emotion.
>>3272thank you for your words. upon reflection, i do not think i am entirely going the wrong direction. i'd rather be where i am now than back where i was, angry and alone all the time. that has to be worth something. i have already started on my dream of exploring the world, as i discovered i have a deep love for travel. as wap as this sounds, i've been studying Japanese for around a year in hopes to be accepted for the JET program after i finish my degree. if i don't feel like i belong where i am now, i may as well spread my wings so to speak. i guess i just want to experience more from the world. i aim to be like Snufkin haha. even if people like us do not fit in perfectly, i do believe there is somewhere out there. i hope you finds yours.
No.3284
>>3281Thank you for your response. I just don't like to pass up a chance to ask for recommendations from other people who happen to listen to heavier kinds of music. Yours didn't hit me though. That brat tries to sound cool by mentioning grindcore, but there is truth to his post, your music is probably just mildly heavy. I used to listen to such music too, when I was a teenager. I find it dull and boring now.
>>3281Hey cheeky friend, what will be your recommendation for me, please? But mind you, if it's bree bree brutal slamming whatever, don't bother, I'm not into drugged perforators.
inb4 what's been spinning
This, for example.
https://nemesiumblacklion.bandcamp.com/album/continua No.3288
>>3284I don't listen to the super hard stuff, but I don't want to leave you without recommendations. Maybe you will like some of these:
https://abyssal-home.bandcamp.com/album/denouementhttps://dodsrit.bandcamp.com/album/nocturnal-willhttps://elderwindband.bandcamp.com/album/firesIt's not grindcore or speedcore but hopefully you will still find some of it enjoyable.
No.3292
>>3278>>3288fun and hard music's where it's at!
>>3283huh… japan's a nice place. good luck with that, anyway!
No.3293
i still feel like im too young to post in these sites, but im probably one of the oldest now.
it's surreal that people who are currently underageb& aren't the same age as me.
some of them will have 'lived' more than me, because i am hikikomori over half my life. and mentally we will be similar from my stunted mind. but i can remember 2010 like it was yesterday, and that separates us.
they weren't even born when i was their age, posting on 4ch.
this past decade went by so fast. i hope i can make the next feel slower.
No.3302
There’s at the office we work together and often end up alone in closed rooms or when the office is kind of dead. I don’t feel super romantically attracted to her but I am getting intensely aroused. Last night we were together and finishing up some paperwork while she was playing around with a computer, and I couldn’t help notice her breasts and waist and a little strand of hair just touching her cheek. Just really intense fantasizing about stroking her cheeks, taking hold of her, ripping her clothes off, kissing her, caressing her, fucking her. I try and keep her at arms length so we’re not physically close and keep contact at a minimum. She’s off limits. Employee relationships are not allowed. I wouldn’t even know what to say to her. “Wanna coffee some time” or “I really want to have sex with you is that okay?” I think I’m in love but I can’t do anything. I can’t control myself. I think I’ll ask to be reassigned or something.
No.3303
>>3293how's hiki life, by the way? is it comfy?
>>3302just ask her out for dinner after work. JUST having dinner with her doesn't automatically mean you're in a relationship, right?
No.3306
>>3302>Employee relationships are not alloweddo you work for military or police of wtf
No.3307
>>3302Brace your will and resist the urge,
Delay the day when madness surges,
Despite all that human nature lacks,
For the love of God, we must kill sex!
No.3311
>>3303I don’t think that’s allowed. I wouldn’t even know how to ask that or where to take her. I’m lusting uncontrollably after her body.
>>3306It sucks but those are the rules.
No.3312
>>3310First time? If so I think you'll write her again. You won't achieve anything though. If it's not first time, then godspeed friend. Chasing women is a beautiful exercise in futility.
No.3313
>>3293Life moved by slowly in the 90s and 2000s, prior to the big tent social media sites and everything going online. If you limit your time spent on high information frequency websites and allow yourself to be bored more often (literally just go outside and then go find a random bench and sit on it for 10 minutes) the time should move by more slowly.
No.3314
>>3312She wants me to return back friend, of course the heart wants what the wants but deep down I know this is because she lost access to things she wanted like premier seating. She attempted to call me 3 times of course I never answered
She was the perfect girl for me too we had biche things in common same religion same favorite artist fuck but it is what it is, you cannot force attraction and ultimately I’m not the one for her.
No.3315
>>3312women are nice. i'd avoid dating the materialistic ones, though…
>>3310>>3314ouch. that sucks… what was her personality like, by the way?
No.3319
>>3315I’m a fool I want to text her again
> what was her personality like, by the way?Like wood I’m not lying. Even she says to me she is a boring person. Obviously she didn’t see me as anything else but some money sink. Girls will yap if you let them but she was just boring.
Some part of me doesn’t want to let go but I know it’s not good for me to cling to her. I just hope I get over it asap.
No.3320
>>3315>women are nicewhen you get them. but when you want to have nothing to do with them, they are an exercise in futility. your brain will always find a way to hijack your sanity no matter how hard you try.
No.3322
sorry, i just saw these.
>>3303it's OK. it gets difficult to gauge certain things because everyone on sites like these is faceless. you all could be the same group from 10 years ago, and the same 10 years from now.
but you yourself change, even though none of the faceless people seem to.
like a rock in a river.. zen…. (´ー`)
>>3313i am too afraid of outside.
being bored itself feels like a waste of time. i like to do (pointless) hobbies every day. it would be good to fill life with more unique experiecnes though. those act like marker points. some years maybe only 1 thing of note happened. other years a few things do.
norms, or people who are always doing different things. like travelling different places. i wonder how their perspective of years are. or does it become a blur for them?
my memories of unique days are quite vivid. but maybe because they are so infrequent.
i still dream of the few i have more often than anything else.
No.3324
I have a confession to make. I have found myself relapsing to watching normie 3D porn while what I should have been doing is fawning over cute 2D girls. I will do my best to amend this.
No.3349
>>3348build habits
everything is habits
just do the one thing EVERY DAY until it sticks. then add the next thing
No.3350
>>3348You must have energy to persevere. If you don't, you can't organize your life. I have tried to build different unstupiding habits like "read a paragraph of that book each day" but all of them failed spectacularly once I was too exhausted by work to care about even a sentence.
No.3353
>>3328you don't need alcohol.
>>3348you don't NEED to manage your time if you start and finish your goals as fast as possible!
No.3357
>>3353or if you don't set them in the first place
No.3381
I hate living in a modernized, bureaucratized, secularized society. Yet there is no escape. There is nowhere else to go and where ever you go the same disease follows you. Life is utterly soulless and mechanical.
No.3406
I think I've become an incredibly sickly person despite almost never.getting sick. I regularly sleep for over 12 hours and on my days off I just want to lie in bed all day.
No.3407
>>3406Do you think you might be depressed?
No.3415
>>3407No, rather i think since I've stopped neeting I've not had.the energy to do the exercises I used to do.
No.3424
>>3368it's alright. find another girl to date! make sure the next one has a better personality, though…
>>3381hmm. maybe you could live innawoods like this walden guy did?
No.3438
>>3435I relate a lot, but I made a good mention of that here before so I won't repeat myself. I would like to suggest that you find a good place to put out your thoughts, though. I've found that there's something cathartic in saying things to nonconversational sources; putting things out on an imageboard just to have them out, or having distant people I send emails to just to share things, or having a book I can just write things out to. It doesn't always help - in fact, it can sometimes cause me to start spouting meaningless or harmful stuff to the people I do regularly talk to - but when I absolutely have to put something into words, since I have no one I can really share things like that with in a real manner, a distant internet buddy or a notebook (usually the latter) help me out a lot. Hopefully there is something similar you can consider.
>>3381I don't want to downplay what you struggle with, but it is important to be what you want to see in the world. Even if you have no hope of changing the world for the better in a serious way, you should still be purposeful and considerate and free just because it is the right thing to do. Hopefully, God willing, your resistance to these things will matter to someone, but even if they don't, it should matter to you. I hope you find the strength to persevere, to be spirited in a soulless world.
God bless you two.
No.3471
>>3467thats how i feel right now without the sadness
No.3472
How are you guys this evening?
No.3475
>>3467what's wrong?
>>3472i'm pretty sure life's just a big puzzle. what about you?
No.3477
>>3475Im tired of putting the puzzle together then
No.3509
>>3477then relax. maybe do something you like for a bit?
>>3479ouch… how did things get so bad?
No.3524
>>3522Why do you look at BL manga series though? What do you see in it? I can't say explaining your reasoning to them would get them to stop, I'd imagine you've already done that. If I were in a similar position I'd tell them regardless of what I like I just wanna be left alone. Really drive home they're being annoying a d immature about it. That doesn't work for everyone though, and it's harder than it seem to do stuff like that.
No.3526
Why did you allow them to learn what manga you read at all?
No.3527
>>3524I love boy-boy relationships. I love the aesthetic and how men can be beautiful and handsome. I don't usually like too much explicit sex and get turned off by explicit LGBT references. I hate identity. I hate labels. Asexual love between males feels pure. Intimate romance without sexual lust. So obviously its silly idealized escapism for me. I mean I like boy-girl relationships too. I'm quite prudish and conservative actually but I do like that idea of Platonic romance between males. If I try and explain this to people, they just give me the lol u gay response. I guess I'll try and ignore them but rumors can be damaging/embarrassing.
>>3526Caught in the act. Had no choice but try and explain it away.
No.3528
>>3527Technically what you describe is in no way superior to yuri and besides, watching boys lewd each other is offputting when you're straight, so I don't know. Pure Yuri is the ultimate holiness, but boys..? Duh
No.3529
>>3528To be fair to what they claimed, They basically want asexual romance. This is a fairly common theme in Shoujo Manga where they desexualize love between the characters, and you get a lot of same sex relationships through that. Some of this was just so that the girls reading could self insert into a character who didn't have the social expectations placed on them that they felt as girls, And some was to get past editorial standards that expected girls romance with males to resolve in certain predictable socially acceptable ways.
So they might be attempting to look for a more platonic non-eroticized kind of love, and appreciate masculine aesthetic beauty in a non-sexual manner. Kind of alien to me as well, but I think I get what they are going for. It seems similar to Plato in the Symposium, and Socrates' chastisement of the common practice of pederasty among the Greeks, while still thinking that there was value in the close relationships between the patricians and the young boys they took under their wings.
No.3531
>>3528I like yuri too. I wouldn't say its superior but I'm not a woman and I like that good BL is basically like yuri but for my sex. Its beautiful because with girl-girl and boy-boy there's no real way to consummate, except disgusting ass fuckery in the male case. So any love has to be pure and holy and not about getting in someone's pants. I know this is a dumb delusion that doesn't make sense but its a happy fantasy and keeps me going.
>watching boys lewd each other is offputting when you're straightHmm I'm mixed on this. I wish people were more open minded. It depends on the boys. If they are huge muscular beefcakes or whiny overly effeminate gay voice types then it does make me sick but watching two fat girls lewd each other is just as sickening. Handsome androgynous looking boys, not butch not too effeminate, hold hands and kiss _is_ pure holiness too. When it comes to sex I'm pretty mixed. It can be off putting but it can be heartwarming at times. Really depends on the physique and chemistry. I usually avoid explicit stuff because sodomy makes me wanna puke.
>>3529>It seems similar to Plato in the Symposium, and Socrates' chastisement of the common practice of pederastyI love the Symposium. I felt so much relief when I found that book. Platonic love has a different meaning these days so I can't name drop that without sounding like an ass.
Really want to read more stuff like this. It makes me happy.
No.3533
>>3531Are you religious?"Homosexuality" is more so a modern invention,and traditionally as far as I know it mainly was a religious ban on specifically the act of sodomy, as opposed to on any sort of sense of orientation, that was prevalent in Abrahamic religions. Of course this ties into the Platonism as well, since the early Christians were all Greek Neoplatonists.
Sorry bro, those old links have been completely severed with the rise of gender ideology, and I think you're probably playing an outright different philosophical game than 99.9% of the population. Because nowadays the religious people are still playing the secular peoples game, and either see themselves as "enlightened" by accepting all forms of modern corporate queerness, including what you probably take as dysgenic acts, or double down on only an acceptance of a purely heterosexual identity, that fully subsumes any sense of love as being that which either comes from procreation, or is conducive to it.
There seems to kind of be a war fought in shojo right now between the old platonism they adopted back in the seventies and a kind of woke corporate queerness, where you are getting a lot of the western bl readers seeing it as representational work for homosexual males, but this is entirely divorced from the source, which was oriented around straight women writing for straight women, probably with similar "prudish" sentiments as you have.
No.3538
Alright, basically, by the very definition, if you can, under any circumstances, put the words holiness, boys and kissing in one sentence that isn't "boys kissing a holiness", you are gay. It's acceptable these days so relax.
>yuri can be offputting too!
Don't mix 3pdp lesbian abominations with purr 2d yuri.
>some artists draw it ugly!!
Holy fuck grow up, human sins can not diminish beauty of the supreme.
>boys deserve it too!!!
Not from the point of view of a straight man.
I don't mean to criticize you for your inclinations or whatever, but you complain about being taken as gay and then instead of proving otherwise lay out gay argumentation. As a friend to a friend, I suggest you make peace of it. Appealing to Platonic love is lame, because Platonic love suggests relationship as strong as between brothers, with undying loyalty. It's not at all about spending intimate moments together hugging each other. It's about getting the fucking gun in hands and saying " this man here is a brother, so I'm gonna shoot until either of us dies but I will never abandon him to die in your hands". It's not about being all tender to each other. It's about faith.
No.3539
>peace of it
peace with it
No.3541
>>3533>Are you religious?Yes. I'm not very strict about it or anti-sex. Sodomy is sinful but everything else isn't. I know this Platonist idea is slowly dying out but its what makes sense to me. I like it and wish more people understood. I wish religious people hadn't leaned so hard into hetero purity culture since we have some much BL-adjacent stuff in our history. I don't really like the pederast angle with Plato but the idea of sexless pure romance and boy-boy intimacy is good.
>There seems to kind of be a war fought in shojo right now between the old platonism they adopted back in the seventies and a kind of woke corporate queernessIts frustrating and one of the reasons I hate modern anime fandoms.
>>3536I guess you could check out Moto Hagio and Keiko Takemiya's work, they founded the genre in the 70s. Thomas no Shinzou and Maajinaru are classics but Hagio's work can be dark and the sharp lines and huge eyes of the 70s art style can be off putting for some. Kaze to Ki no Uta and Zetsui are good but have some explicit scenes. Golden Days by Takao Shigeru. There are dozen of shorter newer manga like Venio Tachibana's Seven Days, which has a novel premise, and Yoake ni Furu which are easy going. For anime, I guess Yuri On Ice is nice and easy going.
>>3538Gays are sex obsessed and they hate women or anyone who likes them. They also seem to like bodies I find unattractive, huge muscular beefcakes that are off putting. I've got a low sex drive and prefer females anyway, so by default they won't accept me in their little clique. Would I date another boy? Yes. Would I have sex with him? Hell no. I guess gays would say I'm repressed or something but I do actually like females and enjoy sex with them.
You're also misunderstanding the idea of Platonic love based on the modern use of the word to mean non-romantic agape love. For Plato, love does involve physical attraction and romance even between two males. I also didn't say yuri is bad or off putting. I do like yuri. I just relate to BL more.
No.3542
>>3541>For Plato, love does involve physical attraction and romance even between two malesWell that's his problem but I guess I'll stop using the term indeed.
No.3562
>>3538>It's not about being all tender to each other. It's about faith.Are you saying romantic love is unfaithful? Those things can go together. A loving husband would defend his wife to the death too.
No.3563
>>3562I'm saying romantic love between men is gay, and doesn't really exist between men and women as far as I'm concerned.
No.3565
>>3302Late reply but "want to get coffee?" is very reasonable way to see if this coworker would like to know you at a personal level.
Also, find a way to reflect on this when you are less horni. Im not saying you need to jerk off just for the post-nut clarity, perhaps a cold shower or hard exercise would also work.
It's hard to evaluate a potential romantic relationship while horni in the same way it's hard to follow a diet when shopping for groceries while hungry.
No.3606
>>3563Gays only interested in sex with guys. They are sexually attracted to males only. Genuine love begins with physical attraction to another person's body and desire to be with them. Then you move from purely physical desire to loving their personality and a deeper spiritual appreciation. This kind of love is pure and not necessarily sexual. You can passionately love someone without having sex because love and sexual attraction aren't the same. It would only be gay if I actually wanted intercourse. Love shouldn't be limited to one gender based on your sexual preferences. That's self-centered. The reason modern relationships suck is because people are too self-centered and obsessed with getting laid.
Am I dysfunctional dwap with sad delusions about the world? Yes but this idealistic fantasy makes me happy and keeps me going. Its frustrating how people accuse me of being gay and reject me while gays hate me because I like women and I'm religious. I'm just a brain rotten otaku who likes old school boy on boy manga and yuri.
No.3613
>>3606In theory, at least.
No.3616
>>3566i like spring. seeing trees bloom is beautiful…
>>3615i looked at the wiki page. i'm pretty sure it counts…
No.3629
I was invited to a meal and an old acquaintance happened to be there. He's a textbook 'woke' type, but not completely insufferable. I do like him as a person and want to talk to him. The problem is I'm hostile to the people I like. So of course, I gay bashed him and insulted him. Insane right? Jesus I'm a fucking loser.
No.3630
>>3629Not a big deal since woke people are usually too insane to care about them.
No.3635
>>3631Yeah I said "my condolences to your family" when he came out with it. He just looked down and stayed silent. It was cold as ice between us the rest of the evening. We didn't even make eye contact.
No.3637
LMAO. Woke man gets upset with a minority that dislikes woke people!
No.3638
>>3635That's very mean, you should apologize to him.
No.3639
>>3638What will it change fundamentally if the insult was sincere?
No.3641
>>3640A good thing you'll not get any~!
No.3643
>>3635Well, that made me laugh out loud. I hate how hard it is for me to be /kind/ and how easy it is for me to be /rude/. Still, it always amazes me how the hardest insults don't even need any swearing.
No.3644
>>3643People don't easily accept kindness and it takes some time for things to be warm enough for compliments to be accepted without much fuss, and rude things tend to also be funny. At least, if you're nice and funny it's going to come off as being flirtatious. It's very sad.
No.3646
>>3638I apologized. He said it was fine.
>>3639I don't know if it was sincere. I was just really frustrated and angry so I lashed out at him.
>>3643I guess being rude is low effort. If I put as much effort into being kind as I do being rude, I'd be a good person. But why do we go out of our way to be assholes thinking we'll look good to others?
No.3648
>>3646>But why do we go out of our way to be assholes thinking we'll look good to others?Because that's what you are. Anyway kindness doesn't equal verbally pleasing everyone.
No.3651
>>3648Thinking of ways of saying nice things to others is a solid first step in thinking kind thoughts about others. It helps in being nice since it's easier to be nice to nice people, and this can only be found by thinking charitably of others. It isn't the entirety of kindness but it'd be really difficult without doing this first. I mean, if you thought someone had a bad quality to them, you might mistakenly think your own opinion and desire for his change would be beneficial to him as well. You might hurt him by trying to show tough love in attempting to correct or point out a fault that isn't one.
No.3653
I used to be really good friends with a girl and we'd talk about everything together, almost every day. I think she was bipolar or something since she'd have extreme mood swings, say something awful and unfriend me, then refriend me again a few months later when she was back to her usual self. I'm pretty sure she won't be back this time, though.
I miss her, to be honest. Looking at it objectively I doubt she really cared about me all that much since she can go so long without talking to me, but that doesn't make it any easier. We knew each other for years.
No.3655
>>3629>The problem is I'm hostile to the people I like.Are you trying to make them hate you because it's easier to be hated than to live wondering if they like you or not?
No.3657
>>3655Never playfully fought with a friend?
No.3660
>>3654uhh… it sounds like you need a break. can you take a few days off from what's making you become depressed and suicidal?
>>3656at least you have time. what jobs have you been looking at?
No.3661
I really want to drop out. This is my last shot at college.
No.3662
>>3661Lool can't do those basic dumbass assignments? College is a do-a-bare-minimum affair, start caring less.
No.3664
>>3663But it's the only useful advice I know of about college. Not caring is the only way to succeed. If you care about it, you will get over stressed by insurmountable amount of useless academic shit they will try to shove down your throat. And unlike me, you can't stop a college from bullying you. So while I can be simply banned, the college must be ignored with assiduous determination. Do the bare minimum and forget about it.
No.3665
>>3655No, I was just frustrated by them and lashed out in anger.
No.3666
>>3664You could have said that without the mocking.
No.3668
>>3666That would be no fun at all! I enjoy poking young students because it's amusing and despite being very unpleasant teaches them something useful. I'm sorry if I offended.
No.3669
>>3667That's true. And there's nothing waiting for you in the end. The brutal enlightenment is that life only makes sense in context of struggle for survival. Once your life is safe life looses meaning.
No.3674
>>3672You're either stressed out, in which case there's nothing you can do, or you need to exercise your will, with which I can't help you.
Yeah that's all too relatable. I wanted to train my memory specifically, but it's been more than a month since my last exercise because month ago I completely stressed out over some unrelated shit and it just takes goddamn too long to recover, longer each time it happens.
No.3675
>>3669It only makes sense because life is whatever happens to survive. That's to say, there's nothing meaningful about it.
No.3676
>>3672Cardio is the only thing that helped me with that. Specifically ones that involve running or hiking.
No.3679
>>3672what's going on? i think you should do the opposite of everything you're doing. start reading up basic words everyday, get more motivated, practice focusing, etc… you'll get better again with time and practice.
>>3675isn't that a kind of meaning, though? to survive?
No.3686
>>3685is the screenshot from bang ~~girls~~ dream?
No.3687
oh what the fuck kindmin your own markup doesn't work
No.3692
>>3685No way. You're the best friend.
>>3687Fakemin can only ask realmin to fix it.
No.3693
>>3687>>3692Realmin here. What markup isn't working?
No.3694
>>3693~~Strike~~ and __underline__
No.3695
I'm scared. Something stupid from five years ago might come back to haunt me, and I can't tell until either I get in trouble, or enough time passes to show that right now is nothing. My chest is really tight and I could barely eat. I wish I could sleep for a whole week.
No.3698
I'm tired of writing this stupid paper on African sleeping sickness. I'm tired. Please hug me.
No.3699
>>3695was it something illegal? maybe you could try hiding for a couple days, i dunno…
>>3698how many words is it?
No.3705
>>3703Calm down, then. The pain begins around 20,000 and quickly escalates after. But 5-10k is just about manageable. Also if it's really stupid then just pour some sweet water into it! Remember that the only thing that matters is keeping your face serious as if you understand a half of it.
No.3707
>>3706That's you friend - anxiety. Enjoy it while you can! And be kind with it! I haven't felt anxiety in weeks and that's some really kind shit, literally like I'm another person entirely. Though I don't suppose it's gonna last much longer, but I must use the time I have.
No.3711
>>3704No but thanks for the hug ^_^
>>3705I wrote 8,648 words and my deadline is tomorrow. I need to get it down to 5,000.
No.3712
>>3711>I need to get it down to 5,000.Who said you such bullshit? Pour your 9000 words at them and push them like you're the smartest of the two!
No.3717
>>3694This should work now. In the future you can also use [u] and [-] (bbcode syntax)
No.3729
My suffering comes from the faults within so it never wavers in its intensity, only morphs into different forms depending on circumstances.
No.3730
>>3728damn incel bros cucked again by chad smh
No.3731
>>3730…yeah but she really isn’t a looker
She’s at best an mtb and she has low qualities that won’t make her hqnp worthy which the girl I’m talking to qualifies for.
It’s just due to constantly seeing her I am left in a state of lust, of wanting, it is indeed suffering to be in this state as a hideous male. All I really have to do is to unfortunately thug it out. All the jobs I applied to have declined me so this is the only way I can make money. I told my landlord about these matters of the heart but he won’t budge on lowering or excusing my rent until I find another job. Of course I will be saddened because I have to face her but I will be okay. I will ascend and mog her to gandy heaven. If Chad wants to have a rendezvous with a ran through single mother so be it.
No.3732
>>3606Homosexuals are monsters.
No.3734
>>3732Tell this to the SJW community.
No.3737
>>3736No they just violate everything nature ever stood for. They are tools of destruction.
No.3742
>>3737Nature does not stand for anything, it just is. Homosexual acts are pretty widespread among animals of all kinds.
No.3744
>>3742Your argument is an
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature and was immediately discarded.
Homosexuality is a violation of the very core of man's psyche. Instead of remaining a man you either become a woman, or a pervert that desires other men which equals desires to violate psyche of other men and turn them into women. Disgusting.
(READ RULE 2 AND KNOCK IT OFF) No.3749
I have to give a presentation at work in a few hours. I did the prep work last minute. We don’t have to use slides so I’m going entirely by notes and memory. I’m so nervous. Also I didn’t have good sleep either. Wish me luck.
I used to feel hostile towards homos but that’s because I used to associate them with buttsex and really I just think buttsex is sickening. Now I don’t care much. They are extremely annoying though.
No.3750
>>3749I hope your presentation goes well friend
Homos just exist for me neither here nor there
No.3763
>>3750It went okay thanks. Not smoothly but not badly. I haven’t slept properly at all. I am so tired.
No.3775
>>3763Happy it went well overall!
>>3773Some people are just that insecure that they will copy someone so they could get the praise instead. There are also some cases where some of these will do something and they immediately want more praise than it deserves. These people tend to not have gotten validation growing or the exact opposite where they did get tons of validation but now they really aren’t getting much
No.3777
>>3763time to nap?
>>3773what hobbies have you been doing?
>>3775i guess some people need a role model to get them going? some people are like that.
No.3778
>>3773>Live your own life, live your own triumphs, live your own failures. I don't get why people want to live others' livesWhat does this even mean? What do people mean when they say this?
No.3780
>>3778At the risk of sounding un/kind/, I observe that such things are usually said in a rush of emotions, when self awareness is lowered. In reality, upon introspection, you reach the conclusion that "your life" does not exist and you're more or less the same as any modern LLM. You have been trained by your surroundings and now that your capacity to adapt mentally has lowered you produce the output, while still changing slightly or not-so-slightly in some ways. But ultimately, what you think is "your life" is just a product of your circumstances and for the most part has never depended on you. It is not about determinism (which is a retarded pseudo-scientific take), it is about your natural incapacity to be fully unique. Being a product yourself, you capacities for producing something unique are very low and the greatest geniuses never invented more than a few new concepts during their lives, and even then, those concepts were never entirely unique, there was always at least something vaguely resembling it but undeveloped. The knowledge is an accumulative sum over time built upon these small bits of your very low capacity of inventing things. So don't take those people you refer to too seriously. All the life you've got is the life that's in front of your eyes, whatever you do it's as much yours as it isn't
No.3785
I've been talking to a lot of different people but it's only fed my desire to talk. It's painful. I miss the feeling of being alone.
No.3787
>>3785Do you not want to talk to somebody? The feeling of loneliness isn't that nice at all. Not in this high tech world where you don't own anything save a small room with a bed, table and a pile of broken bones.
No.3795
>>3786hmm. but if you don't do something, won't things just get worse, though? can't you at least spend some time doing things that make you happy? also, have you been eating well?
>>3789do you exercise during the day or night? you sound like a night owl…
No.3797
>>3795Either very early in the morning or late at night.
No.3806
36.6 but I feel like I have been wrought dry. Maybe I'm finally dying
No.3818
I’m afraid people hate me. I can see the disappointment in their faces.
No.3819
>>3818Don't worry. You just have to endure it. Unless you're dysfunctional, you should be able to live with that. If you are, I can't see how one more torture changes the big picture.
No.3820
Moriya Shrine has made registration mandatory for downloads. I don't have an account but I can't think of a darn username.
No.3822
>>3820make one based on your favourite 2hu
No.3823
>>3822>>3821>combining two things you like… based on your favorite 2huPatchouliAnal is already taken.
No.3826
>>3825I know the feeling. There used to be a time when I both had a buddy or two to play with and we wanted to play the same games. These days I don't have friends, and whatever people are available, either have orthogonal interests or are so superior to me in skill that I can't be bothered.
No.3827
>>3825>>3826that sucks. what coop games have you guys been playing, anyway? i've been playing touhou big battle, an RTS+action game. it's pretty fun…
>>3823what about panalouli? it's patchouli + anal combined. is that taken?
No.3830
>>3827l4d l4d2 warcraft starcraft diablos and some others more niche sega games which we played with joysticks
No.3831
People insulting/demeaning Patchouli are /rude/ and irritate me.
No.3832
>>3831As a s*x repulsed as*xual I couldn't agree more. Lewd terms being posted in the same sentence/paragraph/post/thread/board as my waifu's name is just not okay guys.
No.3833
>>3826Yeah it's rough. I do have a friend that I still play stuff with too, sometimes, but he powergames so hard it kinda sucks the fun out of everything. I like him as a friend it's just really hard to play with him because he has to read through wikis/videos/guides before we even start playing and spoils himself on everything, so there's some stuff we just can't play together.
>>3827Lots of different stuff. Elden Ring, Neverwinter Nights, Borderlands, Barotrauma. Wish we could've properly finished them together.
No.3834
>>3833>because he has to read through wikis/videos/guides before we even start playing and spoils himself on everythingMan that's literally me. I like gathering info before playing so I can OP everyone. Yeah I think other people say the same things about me, but I just can't help it. Though I usually stick to textual guides and blog posts.
>BorderlandsNow that's some really good taste!
No.3835
>>3831Patchouli? More like Fatchouli?
No.3836
Nostalgia is poison.
No.3837
>>3836Moe is the antidote
No.3838
>>3831Considering somebody attractive is a compliment.
>>3832That's a you problem. And censoring those words? You serious?
>>3835You got it.
No.3840
>>3838I wish to smell her.
No.3842
>>3838>Considering somebody attractive is a compliment.Only an American would think commenting on someone's ass a compliment. Stop demeaning Patchouli!
>That's a you problem.Not really. Making jokes about anal isn't fun and annoys people, so you kind of asked for it. Very un/kind/. Patchouli didn't deserve
>>3839That's right. Some people just can't wrap their heads around the difference between plump (attractive) and fat (unattractive).
No.3843
>>3831But Patchouli _is_ anal.
>>3832Sexual orientation labels were a mistake. Now even sexless losers are convinced that what they have isn't a medical condition, but a unique and valid existence everyone has to suck up to.
>>3839And smart. But like all bookworms, she's a killjoy. I speak from experience.
No.3844
>>3839Yes.
>>3840I would too, if she is sweaty.
>>3842> Only an American would think commenting on someone's ass a compliment.No.
> Stop demeaning Patchouli!No.
> Making jokes about anal isn't fun and annoys peopleNo.
>Very un/kind/. No.
>Patchouli didn't deserveShe did. Just as any 2hou.
>plump (attractive)No.
>fat (unattractive)Yes.
>>3843> But Patchouli _is_ anal. Yes.
> Sexual orientation labels were a mistake.Yes.
No.3845
>>3843As*xual men had "unique and valid existences" before modern medicine as priests, monks, and eunuchs. I'm sure in premodern times many married and fathered children because that was expected of them. Nothing about being as*xual necessarily precludes them from falling in love, marrying, and having s*x.
>s*xless losersThe real s*xful winners of life are pornsick gooncels leaking at as*xualGODS such as myself. This is 99.9% of the imageboard audience and they will die as genetic dead-ends with their loli onaholes hot glued to their microclit after they mcnutt themselves. No.3847
>>3845Chad asexual baiter
No.3849
>>3845Its not our fault you had to be chemically castrated for a sex offense. You are mentally ill. Take your pills.
No.3850
Bayonetta 3 is one of the most disgusting games I've played recently. I didn't expect it to be a masterpiece but I didn't expect it to be that fucking bad either. Not even going to bother playing through infinite climax.
No.3851
>>3845Don't you worry. Soon even showing a nipple or even the slightest sight of bare skin will be considered worse than murder. You'll live in a puritan paradise of libidoless retards soon enough.
No.3852
>>3851I almost can't wait to be honest. Rude people like you are sickening.
No.3855
The frustrating thing about the so-called post-modernists is it feels like they never went far enough. They were too defensive and never pushed their criticism of modernity to some of its central values. This has created an impasse where we're now more or less incapable of coming up with better ideas. Post-modern theory is a sad disappointment.
No.3856
>>3853It's time to meditate anyway.
No.3858
>>3857An I should add, I try my hardest to be likeable, some don't have any idea of my depression or suicidal ideation, they don't have any clue about my issue. I try my hardest to make people happy or go laugh or be there and I don't know man. Maybe I'm just not very good at it.
No.3864
Let's put an end to the unkind bickering in this thread please.
No.3912
Site has gone down the shitter. Halfchan can't be back up fast enough.
No.3918
>>2858>What ails youThe fact there aren't enough foxgirls.
Foxgirls are good.
No.3920
I have a feeling the newcomers will make this place a lot less comfy than I remember it.
No.3921
>>3912>>3920We could hide /kind/ to help preserve some of the original comfiness if you'd like. I find myself posting on more obscure "altchans" these days to be honest.
No.3923
>>3921Any chance you share those altchans, if the board gets hidden? Right now I am about to lose my mind how every place I know is either dead or overrun.
No.3924
>>3918I agree. The world is better with mofu.
>>3920Personally, if it's just attitude and they are genuine about posting here I'd give them time to try and acclimate to board culture. It's years of habits that needs to be rewired, and things are still in the "OH MY GOD IT'S FUCKING DEAD!" phase, but after that nails sticking out should be hammered down and lines drawn.
Things will calm down in due time.
No.3925
>>3920It's mainly the posters in the /f1/ threads on /gen/. They repeatedly break the rules against frogs, try to evade the word filter, post links to the sharty, etc…
I had to ban a couple of them already because they were persistent.
The rest of the newcomers seem to be fine so far.
No.3926
>>3925>The rest of the newcomers seem to be fine so farI'm
>>3918, from that which died of 'Chicken Jockey'. I frequented /co/, /a/ & /vt/. You won't have any problems with yours truly. My only problem is not getting enough mofu.
