No. It's dead. I wish there was a board for discussing newer anime, I don't seem to find any comfy /a/ boards anywhere. I just want to quietly do my thing without offending anyone and without being offended myself. But this is impossible so far. Either the boards have acutely shitpostingly ill people all around, or they're so rigid they cut you down before you even sight the gate. I hate myself.

>>2743
Might roll out a modern anime board on here, given that the site demographics have changed a lot since /kind/ was added.

>>2744
I do watch older anime as well, but sometimes it happens to be something seasonal, sometimes something from 10s etc. All I really want is just a thread for myself where I can post without anyone lashing out at me. I don't know how to align it with other boards though. Maybe I could post in /digi/ when watching something from 00s. No idea. Until then, I am going to keep drifting.

I just hope it will not come down to shitposting. Say all you want but for example hikari3 is full of kids and newbies and other **yuri tier folks, their post quality is atrocious. Maybe I want too much. I need some time to wait until my head settles.

My attitude to communication seems to be contrary to what more knowledgeable people prefer and my tastes seem to be different enough that I just don't happen to be able to talk about anything anyway.

On the other hand I dislike superfluous approach to posting that is ubiquitous among certain people. So I am sort of trapped. I don't know if it makes sense anyway.

I think overall misanthropy and isolation are the most flexible solutions to the problem, because they avoid having to adapt to contexts I can't handle. If I were not meant to be part of humanity, then by all means I won't.

Outcasts can't form a good or healthy community simply because it is contrary to their nature. It is much like trying to be a good blacksmith without knowledge, strength and even any skill. Well you will be able to mangle some metal, but that's all.

>>2744
I think there are already too many boards for such a small userbase. Spreading posts so thin between boards makes the place look more dead than it actually is. Wapchan appearing more dead causes a "chilling effect" on posting which contributes to more deadness. Also we already have >>40 if people really want to discuss modern anime.

>>2748
Here's the problem
Separate anime boards
>keep the spirit of the site (dedicated retro board)
>feels slow
Combined anime board
>feels quick
>but it's just gonna be another /a/

Maybe have all the anime boards have a lower thread count (5 pages)?

>>2749
I think the post quality and culture of wapchan would be enough to distinguish the consolidated board from /a/. Keeping the restrictions against discussing modern anime would help with that too. Isn't a part of the problem with /a/ the low quality nature of the modern anime audience?

>>2748
this
just combine /cel/ and /digi/
and link the /kind/ thread as THE modern anime thread. maybe change the title or something

/kind/ is fake nice

>>2743
The biggest mistake in your thought process was thinking you'll not offend anyone. There is no such thing as a "safe" discussion board. The best course of action is to not give a shit and switch the topic. Let it die if you have to.

>>2746
Alt-chans or any chan for that matter WILL ALWAYS have those types of people whether you like it or not. It's a simple fact of life, especially for internet boards. Isolation is only temporary and will lead to a dead board due to lack of interest. You need to have conflict at times to increase bonding of a group or else people will find this place weak and easy to target. You have to learn to filter.

>>2762
This.

>>2762
What do people mean when they say this? To be specific, what are some of the standout examples of "fake nice" posts on /kind/?

>>2766
Some people think it's kind to bully, because it's "tough love" or whatever other excuse they come up with, and get upset when they are told /kind/ is not the place for it.

>>2766
there are lots of online communities that are told they have to be "comfy" and usually being comfy just means being toxically or nauseatingly positive. i don't think that /kind/ is that kind of place because it doesn't tend to stifle discussion itself, it only stifles being a dickhead for no reason.

>>2768
This, there's nothing wrong with positivity, but forced positivity tends to be the worst imo. Positivity has to come naturally. To me, genuine positivity is the most powerful. /kind/ just feels forced in a way. It tries to hard, it isn't itself. Which is why /kind/ is not "nice".

>>2743
/kind/'s not dead! You just have to temper your expectations for alt-chans.

>>2768
I don't know if he thought that far ahead, but I really have to commend kindmin for his approach to the rules. It's counter-intuitive, but not requring that posts be kind (just civil) and allowing most topics is what I think actually lets /kind/ be kind. People can get pretty rude and tell you to leave "comfy" boards if you don't adhere to their exact definition of comfiness.

>>2769
What makes you think we're not being genuine?

>>2769
Earlier this year people were complaining about how /kind/ is just wizchan nihilists who believe everything in existence is despicable. Now it's infested with forced positivity. I have no idea what to think about this place anymore.

>>2741
>>2771
/kind/'s a no bulli zone!

>>2770
>What makes you think we're not being genuine?

/kind/ can't grow a fucking pair.

The old 8chan /kind/ used to have a dedicated negative thread so people could vent about negative life issues or certain issues that bothered them. That way the uplifting happy stuff or hobby threads didn't get diverted. /kind/ for me has always been great for discussing comforting life events, hobbies, self improvement etc, and the anime aesthetic and discussion was just an extension of the fact 8chan was full of weeaboos who liked non conforntational slice of life anime. I've wondered recently why the negative thread hadn't come back so people could be somewhat looser in discussing negative topics that bothered them and have a dedicated place to openly complain about stuff. The random thoughts thread could get depressing or have disagreements sure, but having a dedicated complaining/negative thread seemed to actually help give /kind/ more room to be a little more somber or angry or depressed as long as it was within reason and people were respectful towards each other. Maybe it'd be a good idea if it came back, or something similar. Just food for thought after reading some of the discussion.

>>2778
Also I apologize if this felt like I just vomited up my thoughts. I wrote this before going to bed and I was fairly tired.

>>2778
The expectation that nobody should have negative thoughts or discuss them is one of the things that makes /kind/ feel forced. Maybe its better if there was a containment thread? But at the same time, these kinds of threads fill up quickly and bring down board quality because nowadays people are overwhelmingly negative.

>>2785
I never felt like there was such an expectation, people express their negative thoughts all the time on /kind/. What makes you think it is not allowed?

>>2778
Oh, fuck buddy. You've awakened the ancient forced negativity demon that dwells in the dark recesses of /kind/'s shadow. I was hoping nobody would notice we didn't have a vent thread. I've always thought it contributed to imbalances on the board, since imageboards are already so overwhelmingly negative, and you're just doubling down by making a thread that explicitly solicits even more of it. I'm also skeptical of the utility of venting. Has ranting ever helped anyone beyond just giving them a fleeting feeling of catharsis? Then, as with everything, diminishing returns creep in and those hormones aren't making you cry/ragegasm like they did before. You're left a numb husk chasing a high you'll never experience quite the same way again.

The solution to most people's problems is a change in the underlying material conditions. I think giving information/advice could help with that change, but the embittered will lash out if you try. For you have trampled upon their sacred tears and the holiness of their struggle. There are more problems with a negative imbalance, like the social contagion aspect and creation of a zealous crab in the bucket mentality, but I'll stop. Despite all that, I think you should make the thread. If not just for the reaction, that is sure to follow.
>>2777
You're not a real man YAAAAA

>>2785
It's not necessarily that a person's negative or people disagree thats been a problem with users on /kind/, it's usually how it's expressed that becomes an issue. I've seen people discuss all manner of topics here over the years including suicide and trouble with women, and it becomes an issue when they lash out over people disagreeing or saying their thought process is unkind when they bring up racism or how its impossible to get married or something.

>>2787
I'm only going off of my memories of 8/kind/ in 2016. In a way the random thought thread would alternate between venting and and random thoughts anyway. I assume with the amount of people I've seen discuss racism or get aggressive about women or whatever who've gotten upset people have disagreed with them after returning to kind.moe and wap and getting self conscious about people being uncomfortable with it has probably shown me to a certain degree there's been a long way between 8/kind/ and here, problems with the og board still standing. I remember there being a really comfy friend about memories of girls and women doing nice things or just pleasant memories with girls. You could tell some had pretty negative experiences with women, but were fairly subdued and knew not to delve too deep. I don't think something like that could happen without one person coming in thinking every woman is a whore, and arguing with everyone else before swearing off the entire site forever. Never generation's using image boards i guess.

>>2788
Fuck I've got to learn to actually type properly

>>2788
Considering wapchan's a way more chilled out site than the original 8chan ever was, this is probably just down to that.
People can change though. We just have to work at it!

>>2787
>You're not a real man YAAAAA

Completely misses the point.

>>2788
I miss the "openly racist" friend. I hope he comes back soon

Considering it's current year /kind/ is doing okay.

/kind/ doesn't understand kindness at all. /kind/ is made up channers who treat kindness and positivity as they would any other board topic. I'm not knocking it, there's a charm to otaku influenced autists obsessively collecting and sharing all things kind like but its still superficial and ultimately misses the point.

On darker days, I don't think rejects from /a/ and ex-8channers could every truly be good people. Swim around in a sewer and you're bound to get shit underneath your fingernails. Maybe something good will come of it? Hopefully.

>>2855
>/kind/ doesn't understand kindness at all
Kindness is incredibly subjective and personalized, just like all morals are. There just isn't one true unquestionable God-given kindness to be understood out there anywhere.
>/kind/ is made up channers who treat kindness and positivity as they would any other board topic
Is your complaint that "kindness" is limited to discussion on the board? If so, those are just the limitations of imageboards and the Internet as a medium in general. All you can do is express yourself through text and image. /kind/ was never going to come through your computer screen to suck you off and finger your little asshole if that's what "deep" kindness looks like. What are our expectations here and are they reasonable?

>>2855
You're forgetting the crucial fact that you can clean your fingernails. As superficial as /kind/ can be at times it's not like your mindset is much better. Is it really productive to completely abandon the idea of self improvement or reformation as a concept? We're mostly talking about a bunch of autists and reclusive shut-ins here, not serial killers or family annihilators, and you're basically designating everyone here as incapable of being better people? That's just pointlessly defeatist and goes nowhere.

I don't say any of this with any anger, but you don't know anyone here, especially not what they're capable of or what they contribute to the world. I absolutely reject the notion because I've used 8chan extensively in the past I can't be a good person, or that I can't or don't do good in the world. If people here seriously considered your line of thinking, it'd lead to basically no one here is good, and their efforts to be so are worthless so why even try? That's a load of crap, man. If you want to be a better person than go do it. Work for it.

>>2856
>Is your complaint that "kindness" is limited to discussion on the board?
No. Imageboards are fixated on the consumption of images and symbols. /kind/ turns kindness into a bunch of easily consumable images, stock talking points, and feel good quotes with a generic aesthetic. It takes a virtue and juices it to squeeze some consumerist qualities out of it just like porn milks sex. Is this really ethical reflection or personal reformation or just mass consumption? Except online instead of at a mall where channers and weebs feast on images, sounds, visual formats and aesthetics instead of clothes and plastic junk.

Channers, otakus, and weebs are database animals, compulsive sharers and consumers of content. You do it for the pure thrill and joy it gives you, the ecstasy of communication. You find a new image, you feel the thrill, it scratches that itch, right click save. Rinse and repeat. Digital termites. I'm not saying this is a bad thing persey, but are people really being encouraged to be kind and reform themselves or are have we just gathered here to simulate a fantasy of kindness in a digital hugbox and consume it just like porn fans fap to simulated sex?

>>2857
How likely is that though? How often do people reform themselves? Its possible but not something I see happening. People like negativity, especially artificially induced negativity, so they can emulate the experience of being uplifited or fixed or saved or being the underdog. We like feeling like shit and we pretend we don't want to feel it. Imageboards are filled with people like this.

>>2860
>People like negativity, especially artificially induced negativity

This place increases in activity when it becomes /rude/.

Forced negativity demon? Superficial kindness? Subjective ethics? Distilled consumerist posting? Digital hugbox fantasy? What are you guys running your mouths about? We come here to autistpost. There's no deeper meaning. There's no subconscious desire for eternal kindness, no attempt to promote stagnation in our lives. It is nowhere near that deep. We come here to post funny files and say funny things. There's nothing else to it.

I wonder if OP thought the thread would go this direction.

>>2860
Well /kind/ has never exclusively been about deep discussions about personal growth or reformation, but the relaxed nature of the board compared to the rest of 8chan had absolutely fostered this sort of debate and personal discussions about meaningful topics or self improvement in the past, yeah. And people have been having similar discussions here in a variety of ways when you dig past the aesthetic "no bullying" and anime coziness. Most people don't come here for that though. It's just a place to relax. It's not really that serious, it's not like an imageboard is going to radically change your whole life.

And yes, people improve themselves in life all the time, and reflect on previous thoughts, actions, they accomplish things etc. Sometimes it happens gradually over the years but that's how life is, people evolve and grow as they learn and experience more. This idea of human nature as an entirely negative oriented group that's too frightened to confront unpleasant elements of themselves or their lives to change at all just seems too one sided to me. It's naive. It's like you've exclusively interacted with that for so long you just naturally assume everyone is that way. If you're alive you're changing and evolving, this doesn't change because you've used imageboards extensively. It's a person's responsibility to choose which direction their life changes.



>>2862
based

>>2861
good point… /kind/ can be pretty rude. is there a board kinder than /kind/?

>>2860
The simulation of kindness masks the absence of genuine kind feelings towards others

>>2909
that's deep… is kindness really that rare?

>>2941
Yes.

theres kindness out there just not much of it on /kind/

>>2952
I've been posting on /kind/ since 2015. I've met people from the board in real life and made a lot of friends through /kind/. It's in a diminished state after being nuked so many times, but I still think the majority of people here are kind. I wish this discussion could have been more specific. What is kindness to you? To me, you are kind when you are considerate, friendly, and generous towards others. The /tech/ thread where people are learning together, and teaching others stands out to me as a particularly good example of kindness on /kind/.

>>2953
The idea of friendliness might be to vague. Instead I would replace "friendly" with helpful since I believe helping one another is the substance of friendship.

>>2953
/kind/'s done good since it's moved to wapchan, especially being part of a site that shares the same core values instead of being an island of decency like we were on 8chan.

>>2955
To me /kind/ is evidence of the average 8chan user's excellence. Without my brothers from 8chan my world would be far more lonely and dark.