No.161[View All]
Hey wapchan.
/jp/ is trying to make a touhou visual novel, but they're having issues with coordination.
Someone floated the idea of using an altchan, so I'm here to see if anyone supports this idea.
Here's the original thread:
https://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/48279006 248 posts and 55 image replies omitted. Click reply to view. No.410
>>409damn…well i'm still around at least. Chima's patron is apparently back at it according to a /jp/-side update so hopefully that comes though alright. next part from me will be posted over there sometime within the next two days.
hoping for the best for everyone else.
No.412
>>411seems like a great idea! glad someone finally stepped up for this, thanks a bunch figamin. hopefully OP and the others can hop along in time, just sent you a message over Element about joining so feel free to check in whenever.
No.413
This project still looking for writers? Any specific areas that still need to be filled?
No.414
>>413absolutely. with a few other key volunteers currently M.I.A. at the moment, we have a prime opening for anyone fresh & willing to follow-through to step up. technically, assuming the others do eventually come back with their routes in-tow, we still have up to 2 more slots to fill for our starting roster. i'm currently handling all the in-between route shenanigans, so a new character outline would be an excellent start if you'd like to contribute.
what did you have in mind? i'm willing to work together on anything else i've technically been shouldering on my own as well, aside from the girls i'm trying to write for. it's just a matter of good coordination from here really.
No.415
>>414I was thinking of maybe Shinmyoumaru or if that's too much DDC representation then Yuugi.
No.416
>>415>ShinmyoumaruInchling onahole…
In all seriousness that's a nice pick. There's not a whole lot of Shinmy love so it'd be interesting.
>YuugiThe bigger problem is how MC gets to her. With the tone being for more grounded stories you're limited by where a villager could reasonably go. That said, there was a post in the /jp/ thread spitballing some ideas on how he could accidentally get there.
>If we employ the help of "convenient plot device" I could see a plot where he's out and about and a sinkhole claims him. He falls down, gets banged up and ends up in the underground. This leads to really any of the SA cast: Yams finds him in a tunnel or web cue arachnaphobe boyfriend fic, maybe he crashes into Yuugi's onsen and she cares for him, Orin spots what she thinks is a dead body and you can take your pick of any Chireiden 2hu, or maybe Parsee spots him drifting along the river below her bridge and fishes him out.My point of view is as long as it looks plausible it doesn't matter so much if the hows and whys are a bit contrived or convenient. The reader's suspension of disbelief is pretty resilient. If you're going to do an asspull it better make sense.
No.417
>>415there was a bit of talk in the initial thread over a Shinmy route so it'd certainly be an addition of interest for more than a few anons, inchling/smaller girl shenanigans aside. one of the biggest initial hurdles for her would be figuring out how MC runs into her but maybe that's just me. also, if there was a confirmed Banki route at this time then i think we'd be pushing it with the DDC inclusions but as things stand you're fine.
>Yuugilike the other anon said, you'd have to get a bit creative with the approach here (the idea of our MC accidentally falling down a sinkhole is one i've toyed with mentally a few times now). as long as things don't feel too hamfisted then the writing should work out fairly decently.
personally, i'm more partial to Big Oni Girl myself due to personal tastes but since i'm currently overseeing character planning/additions anyways i'll leave the final call up to you. once you've settled on who you'd rather write for, then we could start hashing out some kind of outline.
No.418
>>416>>417Yeah given the more grounded setting I think me doing Shinmy makes more sense (and I like her more anyways). Regarding how you run into her I was thinking the MC could stumble across her being harassed by some belligerent animals in the outskirts of the village.
No.419
What happened with 4chan?
No.420
>>4194chan got hacked by the sharty
No.421
tbqh it was deserved, but I hope it recovers. I'd hate to lose touch with most of the people I like on /jp/, seeing a community scattered to the winds is not a good feeling.
Good thing I have alternate modes of contact with a chunk of them against their knowledge or consent.
No.422
>>421yeah i feel bad for the innocent boards but hopefully its a wake up call to hiro to actually give a shit about the site instead of jacking up passes
No.424
>>420whelp, that explains it. so much for the update i wanted to make last night but i guess i didn’t get as much done as i would’ve liked to anyways…
now that we’re all here again though, how do you feel about an Inchling route OP? just curious
No.425
will the new friends help us?
No.426
I should hopefully actually be back now, just with less free time than I had previously hoped. Could someone link the most up to date versions of everything? I have a decent bit of time today to do some proofreading.
As for writing the Seija route, I will probably start that once I get a feel for the prose I should write with. I have some ideas for the story, but I don't want to decide on anything until I start writing.
No.427
>>425i sure hope so. it’d be really funny if an event like 4chan imploding would be what marks the ball finally starting to get rolled for the other volunteers here though.
>>426unfortunately i’m at work right now and won’t be able to get you what you need for another 5ish hours but i’ll reupload what i’ve written to post here when i can, it’s just good to have you back on board even if you still don’t have all the free time you’d like (i don’t either fwiw, otherwise i probably would’ve already started writing for Ran’s route by now lol).
hope those novels you were getting through weren’t too bad, i’ll be free to hash through more ideas when i can later as well.
No.428
If you ever decide to take an anthology approach, I have an idea for an Alice story that I'd never be able to make into a paneled doujin
No.430
>>426ok, just for cohesion's sake, here's nearly everything i've written for the thing thus far from the intro all the way up to my currently unfinished dialogue for Day 4. it might be a lot to get through so just take this at your own pace:
https://files.catbox.moe/4oeamw.txthttps://files.catbox.moe/njfg5r.txthttps://files.catbox.moe/uwyocd.txthttps://files.catbox.moe/580cfn.txthttps://files.catbox.moe/n4i93y.txtsince ChimataAnon's contributions have already been looked through, i'll refrain from reposting anything from him for now (most recent writings at the bottom-most link btw).
>>418>MC could stumble across her being harassed by some belligerent animals in the outskirts of the village.that could make for a really cute interaction if you can pull it off right, with either animals or maybe even especially wild youkai if you'd like. would it be typical of her to be exploring around there though? it's not a total deal breaker of course, it'd just have to be the main spot you'd keep meeting her from there until you're locked in with her successfully is all.
>>428with the right kind of effort, it could even be turned into an entire Alice route. feel free to share if you'd like, though i can't say i'd be the one to start following through with it.
>>429>so I can stop feeling exhausted after my current hellish jobmost jobs nowadays are designed to leave you in this exact state, i stg…
hope you can fare well when it comes to jumping back in though, the Kasen route is one i'm starting to look forward to as well.
No.431
>>424> Inchling routeHow this would work?
No.432
>>431mostly how you felt about Shinmy being a character in the first place but that's part of it too i suppose
No.433
>>432I think it's a bit strange but what I think doesn't matter, If the writer can handle this well, that's fine
No.434
>>430>would it be typical of her to be exploring around there though?My understanding was that after DDC Shinmyoumaru hangs out at the Hakurei Shrine semi-frequently so maybe she's staying over in anticipation of the Flower Viewing and you meet her in some grove nearby. Might have to workshop that a bit though.
>>431I figure there's three potential options
>Option 1, Shinmy is an inchling the whole time and it's played straight. Obviously precludes any normal kind of lewdness if we're doing that. >Option 2 Shinmy is around the same height as other characters, probably the most reasonable option but does kind of take away a unique trait that some find appealing.>Option 3, lots of switching between inchling and normal size with the mallet. Gives the most freedom writing-wise but is probably annoying if you're putting together scenes. And it's gonna inevitably look like size changing fetish stuff. As for whether people even want a Shinmy route I'll leave that up to you all.
No.435
>>434From a lorefren perspective I'm wondering how she'll be done since she and her dream self swapped places in AoCF and the whole plot thread never got resolved (thanks ZUN). Dream selves have… less than ideal personalities so you have a wildcard to write.
Of course you can ignore it. It's not well known lore by any means and unless you're a grimfren you're not going to care much. So long as the writer can write a decent character I have no objections, it'll be interesting to see what they do with her.
No.437
>>436I'd be interested in a Keiki or Koishi route. Zanmu is too new for me and I haven't really formed any opinions of her, but I won't tell you no since the only way for her to get new content and fans is to make fanworks of her. I also wouldn't worry about being an ESL or noobish at writing, formatting and grammar can be worked out in a second or third draft, and there's native speakers to help point out mistakes.
Some questions would be how would you intend our protagonist meet either of them, and in Keiki's case get over the barrier between mortal and divine? Koishi's whole gimmick is being unconscious and affecting your own unconsciousness and perceptions, so how much of that will play apart of your writing?
No.438
>>437There should be a Zanmu route so you can navigate yuri love with Zanmu.
No.439
>>438>>409>i would mostly like to check in with >>371 (Chimata's patron) and make sure that anon is at least still somewhat present.Hey, still here! I've just been busy with other 2hu stuff but I have been working on the Chimata route, please don't worry! I did post on the jaypee since I thought we had posted there for a bit and then checked back here when I remembered "oh yeah" since /jp/ is down.
>>438Jesus did the yuri-autist move here?
No.440
Just found about this website and it's cool to see a VN project going somewhere. I was going to ask if I could help with the programming side of the project. But as I quickly read the thread, that part seem already covered. I don't know a lot about the Touhou lore so I can't really help with the writing. So, to all anons involved in this project, have fun!
No.441
>>435>From a lorefren perspective I'm wondering how she'll be done since she and her dream self swapped places in AoCF and the whole plot thread never got resolved (thanks ZUN). Dream selves have… less than ideal personalities so you have a wildcard to write.If I recall, dream selves eventually "acclimate" to being the real one and stop acting like a dream version.
No.442
>>434>you meet her in some grove nearby. >Might have to workshop that a bit though.maybe you could even meet her in a place like the Spring Path. it could be a nice surprise to see her in a place like that since it isn't immediately obvious and is a decently-topical location settled between both the Shrine and the Village itself.
as for how to approach her size, i think her inclusion in any form will inherently carry with it that underlying tone of mild size play and having her stay as her typical small self gives a unique angle to the route imo. to me, Shinmy simply isn't Shinmy unless she's smol. maybe part of getting closer to her would involve her inevitably using the mallet to shrink you down but eventually you can learn to appreciate each other as you are normally.
i'm slightly indifferent to her inclusion overall but figured a little feedback anyways couldn't hurt.
>>441nice post number there. maybe the dream-self inclusion can be more of a minor detail or something to feed into depending on how the writer would like to carry out the in-route corruption ending though that's just more spitballing.
>>436glad to have you interested! i honestly haven't seen much genuine interest in a Zanmu route across the threads so far, so i would suggest either Keiki or Koishi. the Koish is likely going to be the more popular choice overall there but
>>437 also has a good point when it comes to people needing to make more Zanmu content in the first place (as well as good advice in general).
if it helps you out in any way, here's the most updated version of the Masterdoc i've been keeping that ought to have all currently relevant information for anons in your position:
https://files.catbox.moe/4zdqz7.txtonce you've decided who to go with, a small outline for how her route/interaction would play out would be in order and we can start working through some overall ideas/themes from there.
>>439thanks for the update! we're all a little busy in our own ways so it's just good to see you chime in, good luck with what you're working through atm and feel free to join the Matrix instance if you'd like some more direct feedback from others aside from this thread.
as for myself, i'll hopefully be posting more progress for Marisa's Day 4 come tomorrow as long as tonight's shenanigans don't leave me too creatively winded. Happy Easter everyone!
>>440thank you kindly~!
No.443
>>442I am the Koishi/Zanmu/Keiki anon. I will read the link you posted, so thank you for that. Hopefully I can say something more definitive in a few days. Good luck with the Marisa route btw.
No.902
>>443thanks, been desperately trying to finish what i've been writing since i obviously missed my self-imposed 21st deadline but i don't have too much farther to go now really. gotta keep telling myself that a little progress each day is better than none at all…
also, as many of you are surely aware of by now, 4/jp/ is back online though the VN thread over there was unfortunately unable to be bumped back up in time before all the fresh threads from today kicked it off the board. i've been wanting to rework some of the information i included in the starting posts for that thread a little anyways, plus we have this brand new board to call home here (thanks admins), so what i'll do is start up a fresh one sometime this weekend once i've gotten through what i'd like to for Day 4 and rework those informational posts to hopefully be just a little less dense.
best of luck to any anons out there just getting started with further contributions and i'll be looking forward to seeing you all again in the next /jp/ thread (though i'll obviously still be crossposting updates and such here as well)
No.1050
>>902alright, first off:
https://files.catbox.moe/ijl3oe.txtthere's everything i've been wanting to do for Day 4. i've decided to make the good/bad ends following this day separate just for the sake of not creating too many endless walls of text at once, but that link does include both choice outcomes just like any other entry so far. it might be a bit unpolished and i'm unsure if i landed everything for 1.4.2 just as i originally intended but that's how i've been wanting it to play out.
i was wondering if i should take a proper break from this or not after wrapping up the acceptance/rejection dialogue, just to recuperate and maybe spend more time on my own things for a little while, but here's something that could be more immediate: should i even try and bring the thread back right away? i did intend on brining it back tonight at first but i think people are still settling after the site hack, activity on 4/jp/ just seems a little dampened. this could give more time for others to catch up here if i don't, giving us more to come back with for a new thread proper but there's been increased interest here either way. if anyone wants to speak up over this or not go ahead, i may just decide one way or another on my own anyways if there isn't much consensus and there could be more to discuss with the subject.
No.1051
>>1050whenever you make a new 4/jp/ thread it may be helpful to make one on kissu as well since they've got an active touhou userbase and not all of their users regularly browse here
No.1186
Is there a playable demo yet?
No.1217
>>1186unfortunately no, we're waiting on models for locations to be finished, some minor coding tweaks if they need to be made, and for the end of the Marisa route to finally arrive along with one other route (either by me with Ran or through someone else, preferably the latter but i'll still get that other route done eventually either way). i have been taking that break so i can work on my own projects for a little while but i would like to get back to writing this soon. especially with how far Marisa's route has come. if i'm the main one being waited on here though then i'll be sure to jump back into this as soon as i'm able.
>>1051>it may be helpful to make one on kissu as welli've been thinking about this since you made that post and i think i'd be pretty comfortable with managing a kissu thread as well for those over there that are interested. my only desire would still be to come back once we have some more substantial progress to show is all, wouldn't want to spread what we have too thin in case others still need time. having this be something that exists across multiple /jp/ instances would be neat but could hinder progress if it's done too soon.
>>1194how have those models been coming along by-the-by? unless you've been focusing on other aspects, i was thinking about sending over another update email but there hasn't really been much to report anyhow so i figured talking here was alright too.
No.1306
>>1217The pace may be slow, but progress is being made
No.1404
Hey, I am the Koishi/Keiki/Zanmu anon. Sorry for the radio silence.
After some thinking, I think I would like to try my hands at a Koishi route, and maybe talk about a Zanmu route later, if I found myself willing to go for it.
Were I to write a Koishi route, I think it would go something like this:
MC is walking the surroundings of the Youkai Mountain, maybe, where he starts to feel he is being looked at. After a while, Koishi appears in MC's field of vision, and asks where he is going. The conversation would drift off after that, and at the end she would confide to him that she needs some help. The reason being, she feels something weird in her chest she can quite describe, which appears to be loneliness. From then on, MC slowly befriends her (and maybe something more). There are some heartwarming, and some sad moments, which help cement the relationship. Maybe some short adventure to The Palace of the Earthly Spirits she takes him on. It should be a cathartic experience for the MC, but also for Koishi. I was thinking about a 3-day route.
I would write Koishi as somewhat childish, basing myself off her dialogues within SA, with some weird hints here and there to account for her unconscious mind. It should be a heartwarming interaction between two individuals somewhat out there who find each other.
I don't have the notes I wrote about my brainstorming, but this would be gist of it.
Questions: Do events need to correlate with present-day Gensokyo? I am not really interested in her being a well-known individual through Gensokyo, rather in her as she is in SA.
No.1430
>>1306I've been slacking since I first stsrted working on a draft, if only I didn'tchave work to eat most of my daytime…
No.1503
>>1404>Questions: Do events need to correlate with present-day Gensokyo?No
No.1547
>>1306still good to know either way, thank you!
i'll post a more comprehensive update when i can but i would like to say for now that i'm just about done with that break and will be jumping back into this again shortly. focused on what i wanted to for a while and i'm pretty happy to be switching back to this as a main focus.
>>1404a Koishi route along those lines does sound pretty cute. with that 3-day route idea however, do you mean either the first/last half of the routes will be that long (getting to know her vs. actually committing to her) or there will only be 3 days of interaction all together? just trying to make sure i understand is all, i can talk more about route details in a small while.
No.1574
>>1547Hey. So, yeah, I was thinking about a 3 day route in total. At the end of the first day, you would answer whether or not you want to become friends, and answering affirmatively would continue the route. On the second day, some drama takes place (Koishi cannot control herself, she plays too violently, or something along those lines), which gets resolved either then on on the third day. On the third, last day, you make ammends and so the friendship deepens and by the end, Koishi starts noticing she feels something new in her chest, that is, love, for Anon. Then the fabled koosh kiss, and you can go to the Flower Viewing event with her. I personally was not planning to have any sex scenes, because they clearly do not fit the setting.
Of course, you do have a whole game planned, so feel free to point anything that may be incongruous for the final result.
No.1669
I think it would be good to post new 4/jp/ & kissu threads by now, it's been long enough since the last one
No.1670
>>1669I think it would be better to post a thread when I introduce the BGs