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Does /ar/ like mahou shoujo anime?
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>>842yes. i always assumed sailor moon was the only good magical girl show but like every series i've watched is better than it.


>>824I don't know who the target audience is, all I know is I love this stupid retard.


>>2106>I don't know who the target audience isjapanese tween girls in the 90s?corrector yui is an adorable anime though. one of the only 'classicaly' mahou shoujo animu i've enjoyed


Have any of you seen Miracle Girls? It's show about two twins who can communicate telepathically and and teleport. It's more shojo that magical girl, but I remember liking it alot. I saw it some years ago and remember laughing on the second episode when a plane gets hijacked by terrorists as part of a joke, thinking how they couldn't make a plot like that today.


Have any of you seen Miracle Girls? It's show about two twins who can communicate telepathically and and teleport. It's more shojo that magical girl, but I remember liking it alot. I saw it some years ago and started laughing on the second episode when a plane gets hijacked by terrorists as part of a joke, thinking how they couldn't make a plot like that today.


This is a thread to provide resources for anons to educate themselves on the history, production process, and common critical language of anime and manga (I am less educated on manga personally, so my recommendations will be anime focused).Here is a useful article that is a great overview on anime as an artform, how it got to be the way it is, and what distinguishes it from cartoons: https://www.tofugu.com/japan/anime-vs-cartoons/The Dragonball fandom has an excellent series of articles about the production process of your average television anime (both the retro and digital workflows are explained), as well as a map of all of the staff and what they do:https://www.kanzenshuu.com/animation-production/process/https://www.kanzenshuu.com/animation-production/positions-and-roles/Here is another article that helps establish a baseline knowledge for talking about animation quality, or more specifically some pitfalls to avoid when discussing it:https://www.kanzenshuu.com/animation-production/quality/For those who want a much more in depth and technical book on an academic study of anime as an artform, there are several books I could recommend, but by far I find this the most useful: https://film7000.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/thomaslamarre-2009-theanimemachine.pdfFinally if you'd like some insight into the history of the American anime community, this is a great book:https://u1lib.org/book/5612293/e70b96Feel free to share your own resources if you have any, the more educated the community, the more we can appreciate what we love!
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>>806https://fullfrontal.moe/animage-1988-11-ova/Animage industry interview from 1988, on the OVA market.


>>807Excellent, I wanted to dive more into sakuga/animator culture. Thanks!


this stuff is really interesting, cheers


>>806New interview with legendary animator Shinya Ohira. https://fullfrontal.moe/nterview-shinya-ohira/Ohira discusses Yoshinori Kanada, Masahito Yamashita, the new Urusei Yatsura series, and more!"It’s well-known that you became an animator after discovering Masahito Yamashita’s[6] work on Urusei Yatsura[7]. What would you say is the appeal of Yamashita’s animation?Shin’ya Ohira: Let’s see… (thinks) First, there’s the mood and dynamic action he inherited from Yoshinori Kanada[8]. But Yamashita has things that Kanada doesn’t, like physicality and details… It’s hard to express. Yamashita’s animation is both sharp and sensual. I really like that sort of fleshy mood, and I also love curved and irregular lines… Kanada used rulers, so it’s very sharp and straight, whereas Yamashita’s drawings are just curves, and he puts them together to create something very dense with details… (thinks) I think that’s what I like about him. That’s why I like Yamashita’s touch more than Kanada’s.Since we’re on Urusei Yatsura, what movie is your favorite, Only You[9] or Beautiful Dreamer[10]?Shin’ya Ohira: Only You, of course! (everybody laughs)There’s a new Urusei Yatsura TV show coming out soon. Will you watch it?Shin’ya Ohira: Well, you know… (laughs) The staff is totally different, and I’m not really into it for the story, so if Yamashita isn’t there, I don’t really intend to."..."Shin’ya Ohira: No, it hasn’t gone that far. Something small might happen soon, though. But I’d like to make something longer before I die. Actually, I want to try doing mecha again. Of course, not 3D, all by hand. Something like what we used to do in the 80s. Won’t you do a remake of Birth[19]?Shin’ya Ohira: (laughs) Yes, something like that! I want to go back to my roots, you see. At first, I really liked Kanada and Yamashita, but I was rejected for it, so I had to change. But with things as they are now, I’d like to return to how it was before. At least once, I’d like to do a long-form work with my own interpretation of Kanada and Yamashita’s styles, which I couldn’t do when I was 18 or 20. It doesn’t need a story; I’d rather do something like a documentary about this kind of art. I just want to draw something that keeps moving."


>>806>>807Fascinating stuff, thanks OP.


Have you seen Golden Boy?
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>>799No, because I heard the manga ruins the character of Kintaro, and I don't want that.


>>801I read it to the end and it really goes off the rails.Here's a basic summary of what I remember-A long arc where Kintaro poses as a schoolgirl-An arc where Kintaro's old college classmate is running a VR sex cult-Kintaro gets hypnotized by the sex cult-A flashback arc where you think you'll learn about Kintaro's past and why he travels and studies, but it's just lots of philosophizing and lots of sex-Actually most of the later manga can be described as "lots of philosophizing and lots of sex"-The art gets really weird and "stretchy" looking-The manga ends abruptly in the middle of a sex scene--which featured lots of philosophizingThis might sound hard to believe but I actually like the manga and how crazy it gets.It's like the author dropped acid and decided to start experimenting


I'm currenly rewatching it. From the best retro anime, especially for an ecchi comedy. It sucks that they didn't made more episodes.


One of my favorite anime. Love the character designs, love the flexibility in the animation. Great characters. Arguably the best dub of its time (sub is great too!). Just a banger of an ecchi comedy.


>>800Man, the manga certainly goes places. I wasn't expecting the hard turn into NTR drama for example or the rape scenes. This is one case where the anime absolutely beats the pants off the manga.


Didn't expect Trigun to be this bad. These production values are on par with those Lost Universe webms. Surprised there was no backlash against it and that the show is remembered fondly in spite of this.
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>>777I hear that Trigun is one of the worse ones. I mean I watched Lain and Evangelion too to add to the list of tv anime but none looked this bad.


>>778>I hear that Trigun is one of the worse onesTrigun doesn't have that reputation, where are you hearing this?


>>777Naw, I can think of plenty that are well animated most of the time. I haven't seen Trigun but 98-02 had more sketchily animated shows than before just because they started producing so much more so quickly. You go watch late 80s TV anime in comparison and generally things are much better animated.


>>771Sure it's not a masterpiece by any means as far as the animation/production goes. But it's by no means a bad anime series. I have plenty of fond memories watching Trigun late at night on Adult Swim back in the day.


I didn't think it was bad at all. Hell it was overall pretty good but it is one of those shows I can't go back to after reading the manga which was way better. The only reason I am offended by Lost Universe is that we got an ugly CG Gaiden instead of the proper adaptation we could have finally got.


Kanashimi No Belladonna (1973) is a masterpiece of tragic/erotic/psychedelic animation directed by Eiichi Yamamoto. Jeanne is a peasant who gets raped by a noble and becomes a witch; based on/inspired by La Sorcière by Jules Michelet, a treatise in the history of witchcraft. Noted for its experimental artstyle, bizarre visuals and its connection to Western classical art works like Klimt and the cubist movement, it's a unique piece of art with a moving narrative and breathtaking moments on screen.
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>>760Being a Disney movie is what gives Cog's Castle its timeless energy. Liking Mamo because it's edgier makes you sound like a child.


>>766If I want to watch a Disney movie, I'll watch a Disney movie. Hell, I'll even turn on a Ghibli film. Those films are great and there's nothing wrong with them, many are classics for a reason. Cagliostro isn't just a Disney film, it's a not very interesting Disney film. Sure there are great moments, but it's far from the best Lupin film and its far from the best Miyazaki film. If you wanted a new Cowboy Bebop film and it was a goofy Disney kid's film, it'd be more than understandable if you didn't really care for it and wanted something more adult. I'm not sure how Lupin is any different in that regard.


>>767I'm a Fuma Clan Conspiracy and Legend of the Gold Of Babylon man personally.


>>747Char's Counterattack (1988) by Yoshiyuki Tomino is the culmination of the original Gundam saga which began with 0079, marking the final conflict of the fourteen-year rivalry between the characters Amuro Ray and Char Aznable.


>>761What's really interesting to me is that the Red Spectacles is sort of filmed like an anime in live action. Movement is deliberately limited, the backgrounds are flat, camera tricks are anime-style... It's pretty neat.


I am in dire need of old generic loli cat girl animes. Would you guys help me out?


Interested in this too. I didn't think this was a trope until the early 2000s. Anything earlier?


>>736Di Gi Charat was 1999, I think that was the first anime ABOUT loli cat girlsI know there's loli cat girls in a variety of 1990s media but they're usually side characters.


Geobreeders is from 1998.90's OVA nudity warning, the cat girl's design is top tier though.


Not sure if it needs a thread but it's not like we're overflowing with discussion here ;), still I recently started watching the original HxH anime from 1999. I have never actually watched/read any of HxH and all I know of it was that it's permanently on hiatus, that cat girl (or boy?) that everyone posts a lot and the designs of the MC's. I decided to give it a shot for no real reason and so far I've been enjoying it. I've watched YYH last year and enjoyed that as well. I found Season 1 of YYH to be good, 2 to be great the first half of 3 to be fantastic and then it kinda falls off after Sensui is introduced which was a shame, but it's nice to know that Togashi hasn't lost it with HxH. I will say the first couple of episodes were...fine, I'm still not entirely sure what the plot is. Sure, Gon is trying to find his father and that's the goal but the whole idea of Hunters just seem odd. The fact Gon and that other hunter in the first episode were seen hunting animals and Gon wants to become a hunter kind of makes you think Hunter's are animal hunters, but then they add several characters who don't really fit that niche at all which makes the term "Hunter" kind of confusing. I guess it's more like a catchall term for someone who is exceptional and reliable in everything and thus the guy you go to for troubles, like an official bounty hunter or mercenary. Character wise, I enjoy them a lot.What surprises me the most about this show was that I expected Gon to be the main part of the whole show and everyone else to sort of be secondary characters who don't really interact with one another since it's about Gon and his story, but it's actually pretty cool to see Leorio and Kurapika be together a lot and see their histories and helping each other out and such. I also like how Gon and Killua have a really normal friendship. They basically act like kids their age would act if they were friends. Which is very surprising since I thought Killua would be very stoic and not want to be friends with Gon but he opened up pretty damn quickly to him. Hell their dynamic feels like the other way around. Killua should be the MC and Gon is the friend who helps him out of his shell, but it's not like that at all.I'm currently on episode 27 and the final part of the Hunter exam. I found the first section (running) to be a bit lackluster and the second section (cooking) to be Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>729Fair enough, but to me it still comes off as magic powers where anything can happen. At least when it's established for the character I actually don't mind it that much. Currently on the dodgeball part of Greed Island and it's interesting to see Nen be used in the way it has been (even if it starts with "Woah, he made 7 copies of himself using Nen to play dodgeball") since a few of the characters have their Nen abilities already established like Hisoka with his Bungee Gum and using it to grab the ball from afar, and currently Gon with his RPS powers.I actually don't mind Nen being used as a stand power, it feels fine to give people a unique power they can rely on in times with it's own strengths/weaknesses. I just find the whole "I'll use Nen to turn this pack of cards into a GUN" or whatever to be very odd since it just feels like Nen can be used to do anything by anyone even if there is a set of established rules in there. It just feels like it can be used to explain away everything. I know I wasn't really paying attention when it was all explained because I just found the whole idea boring and I didn't think it would've become a huge part of the show so I guess I'm suffering for it. I also didn't know HxH was going to establish this at all, since I really enjoyed seeing everyone have natural abilities in the Hunter exam that are now being mostly sidelined for them to develop Nen.>Gon using zetsu to silence his presence while hunting Hisoka...ect it all feels very real and tangibleIn the Hunter exam or was this somewhere else? Gon didn't know of Nen at the time, unless you mean when they tracked the Spiders in Yorkshin?


>>730>In the Hunter exam or was this somewhere else?Yeah in the Hunter eaxm. He was suppressing his Nen without knowing what Nen was which got Hisoka very excited.Killua's assassination technique is also supposed to be Nen but I am not sure how that goes.That's the whole thing about Nen people sometimes use it without even knowing they are doing so, these are the geniuses and super atheletes in the HunterxHunter world, special people. It's just willpower and dedication/extreme concentration manifesting as an actual physical power and I find that fascinating idea.Yeah Hatsu will be used in a stand-esque way where you come up with whatever power and call it a nen ability and it gets worse with that aspect as the series progress but there's still enough of the rules being applied that it don't feel like total bullshit. The categories especially are very important.Like you say the Dodgeball starts with bullshit "let me just copy" myself but then you have to respect the rules, emission is not efficient, enhancement makes you more powerful, In can hide nen....ectYou balance the bullshit with the logic to create fun and I think Togashi did it well, and there are many interesting uses of nen later on.


>>731>>730I am not a super HxH fan but I like it enough and thought Nen is great and more interesting and developped than most typical battle-shounen powers.I was refreshing up on Nen after reading this thread and it's interesting to even look at something as basic as the category hexagon.At top you have Enahnacers most basic use of Nen basically just outputting Aura, you go right you have transmutation, giving the aura different properties, next to it is conjuring, manifesting the aura into physical objects they are similar to each other but conjuring is further away from enhancement and feels like a logical progression to Tranmutation.On the left of enhancement you have a different application of Aura, Emission, sending the Aura away from your body, further on is Manipulation using the aura that's seperated from your body to manipulate objects or people, again logical progression and it's feels natural that the further you go the harder it is to master the other category.


Sorry for the late reply, some stuff got in the way but I did finish HxH. I found the ending of HxH to be quite good, when I figured out why they brought the Accompany card I was actually pleasantly surprised and enjoyed how the 1999 version had a pretty decent ending when HxH still goes on until today. It's a shame they could only bring three cards and used them up at the end, I would've loved if they kept a certain, literal ace up their sleeve of an Angel's Breath or something for when a fight was wayyyyy too difficult for them.I enjoyed the final fight with Bomber but I do think it was a bit lackluster to have a random bad guy introduced at the end of the series to be the final bad guy defeated by Gon, still a great fight though. >>731>Yeah in the Hunter eaxm. He was suppressing his Nen without knowing what Nen was which got Hisoka very excited.Alright, that's pretty cool I like that. >Like you say the Dodgeball starts with bullshit "let me just copy" myself but then you have to respect the rules, emission is not efficient, enhancement makes you more powerful, In can hide nen....ectHonestly, after you explained Nen and I actually started to pay attention to what was happening in the show I started to enjoy it more. I originally thought it was bullshit powers that were limited by whatever Togashi wanted to limit them by, but after finishing the dodgeball fight and the fight with The Bomber I finally saw that it was a lot more deeper than it seemed. When he split into 7 copies he didn't really have any other ability beyond that, he was just powerful himself and once I noticed that I enjoyed the fight a bit more because he was VERY powerful but that was the limit of his power which Gon, Killua and Hisoka were able to bypass. Also, Hisoka being on their side for a bunch of episodes was great. >>732>I was refreshing up on Nen after reading this thread and it's interesting to even look at something as basic as the category hexagon.In a way, I wish Nen was explained either during fights or in a way that wasn't so God damn boring. When they were explaining this hexagon I really thought it wouldn't be that important but I guess I was wrong. Reading the explanation in this thread wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


>>733Well there's always the Chimera Ant arc which many consider to be the peak of the series. But I would say there's no rush if you enjoyed the experience. take a year or so off from the series dwell on it allow yourself to forget it and then maybe watch HxH 2011 from the beginning to the end, it does end on a much better note than Greed Island.


What are the essential pre-2k hyperviolent anime?
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>>721I think ninja scroll has the perfect amount of edge and that's why it works best out of Kawajiri films. Wicked City feels like a hentai and you can't take it seriously, VHD is too tame which as a result makes the experience lack weight


>>722100% percent of Kawajiri's catalog is pure unadulterated quinoa, your criticisms are utter nonsense


>>723He's nothing more than a b-movie director nut that's not a bad thing necessairly


>>724If you're looking for anime ultraviolence, you're looking for B-movie schlock most of the time. If you want unsexy violence, Be Invoked exists.


>>722I don't think that the sexual elements of Wicked City work against it. The issue is more so the old man acting as a comic relief character that kind of breaks with the general tone it goes for. That and the kind of sappy conclusion. I think it has Kawajiri's sense of color design and iconic imagery at its best though.>>723>>724>>725Japan has a tradition of visual experimentation and artistic accomplishment in their B-films, this naturally extends to anime as well. To be a B-film should never been seen as derogatory anyways, they're quite literally just more niche low budget film that would be played alongside with "A-films" as a warm up theaters. It doesn't have anything to do with actual quality.


give one get one. I start: Outlanders (16.12.1986), great trashy fun on a saturday evening.back of the box blurb:>Scantily clad space princess Kalm arrives on Earth to shake things up! As her father’s armada pummels the Earth’s forces this busty space maiden plunders the planet in search of a good man to call her own. Hapless Earthling Tetsuya finds himself caught between the alien invaders and the warrior woman who would be his wife!
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Anyone know where I can find all the episodes to Wingman??https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTI9EZglHX4


Are there any anime adapted from western science fiction stories, aside from Lensman and Starship Troopers?


>>1231Captain Future


I recommend all of you to watch the italian live action of Kiss me Licia.The anime didn't have the expected success in Japan but in Italy it was very well received.


I hate to be a downer, but most of these I cannot get through the first episode.


Is this still the most soul crushing ending scene in anime? It is for me at least.
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>>680It wasn't vague at all, if anything ZZ retroactively ruins the ending by having him recover from it in the end because "anime is supposed to be hapy :)" -Yoshiyuki Tomino (probably)


>>679When I first saw the ending of Texhnolyze (around 2005ish, I was still a young teenager), while the scene with Ran was unfolding I unconsciously dug my fingers into the skin of my other arm and drew blood. I was making the same facial expression of confusing and rage that Ichise was making and I started sweating and crying intensely. Then the scene that immediately followed afterwards with the insert song and I fucking bawled like a bitch.I threw up later that evening too.Not a single other anime or any other piece of media gave me such a visceral reaction, jesus christ. I haven't watched Texhnolyze since then and I don't want to watch it again.


>>682Yeah I remember feeling this heavy hole that slowly drained everything. By then she really was the only part of that show left to hope for and when that was gone and the ending came I just felt empty. Powerful stuff, but it really gets the message of not putting your existence behind impermanent things across to the viewer.


Jinrou comes to mind for me ;_;


yeah this moment cemented Zeta gundam as one of my favourite anime. listening to this is melancholichttps://youtu.be/oNYPryOqyGo

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