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Welcome to /ar/! ranchant Board owner 01/08/2022 (Sat) 08:02:52 No. 17 [Reply]
This board is for the discussion of retro anime and manga, generally keeping it pre-2000. This isn't a hard rule, but don't go posting seasonal stuff. Also, this is still a young board and site as a whole, so if you have any suggestions, put them in >>>/meta/. Please keep the global rules in mind, especially rule 3. Enjoy!
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Dezaki anon 08/04/2022 (Thu) 12:36:36 No. 1518 [Reply]
Thread dedicated to the great Osamu Dezaki. Starting his career notably as an animator for Astro Boy, Dezaki made his claim after directing the Ashita no Joe anime. In it he defined much of what would become his signature style, which he would continue to develop throughout his future works. Many aspects of his style became defining tropes of anime. For example, his famous freeze frame technique, known as a postcard memory (pics related) has become a staple of anime. If you want more examples of tropes he started I recommend watching Ashita no Joe. IPs he has directed include: Golgo 13, Black Jack, Space Cobra, Lupin III, Aim for the Ace, Moomin, The Roses of Versailles, and more. Without Dezaki the golden age of anime, that this board relates to, would not have existed as it did.
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Has anyone else noticed repeated motifs and ideas in Dezaki’s works? I’m not just talking about stuff like the postcard memories, but he also seems to recycle ideas a lot. He likes putting trains and planes in his settings, he always likes having scenes that are near rivers, the ocean or some body of water, he likes referencing Rikishi’s finger point alot, he does frequent callbacks to his other works (Oniisama e is filled with Ace Wo Nerae references, for instance), he’s had several series that involve addiction to either alcohol or drugs, several characters in his works get serious illnesses, and so on. It’s funny how even without analysing the artstyle and directoral techniques, you can tell if something is made by Dezaki just because he loves using certain tropes.
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>>1518 In what order should I watch Aim for Ace? Aim for Ace (1973) or new Aim for Ace (1978)? I know the sequel for both is Aim for Ace 2.
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>>1907 1978 doesn't have a translation iirc. A shame since it looks really good compared to the look of the 73 version. Hell, I don't even know the 1978 version is uploaded anywhere.
>>1909 Oh, I see. That makes it simple then. I really digged the artstyle
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Just finished Black Jack fucking amazing. To be honest I will always pegged Dezaki as a hack fraud (maybe too strong a word) who we pretend it was good despite some very obvious amateurish qualities to his work. For example the sound design where he would just play the main theme at random intervals in the episode and it gets really annoying after a while, or the awkward dramatic timings with an episode having multiple climaxes and awkawrd cuts and scenes not flowing together well. I tolerated it in Joe because of the source material and Cobra is light hearted fun, but it was hard to stomach on shows that tried to be serious. But I am glad to report that there's none of that in Black Jack, this is Dezaki perfected, everything at the utmost professional standard, excellent drama with a great sense of pacing and every scene plays together well, all accompanied by some of the best art you'll see in anime. Highly recommend for all Dezaki fans

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anon 11/05/2022 (Sat) 05:12:33 No. 1857 [Reply]
Who digs giant robots?
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>>1857 He’ll yeah
>>1857 He’ll yeah
>>1881 >>1882 Oh shit it got confused by the new capcha system and I thought I had to do it multiple times and the first image did pop up previously. Sorry for the repeat
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>>1857 who doesn't?

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Ranma 1/2 anon 01/08/2022 (Sat) 13:13:57 No. 31 [Reply]
Now THIS is a classic.
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>>1223 because she did, ranma is a huge pothead.
>>31 I'm currently watching this again after like 20 years or so when it aired where I live. It's very weird that I remember a lot of things, but can't tell what the story is or how it developes further down the line. But I guess thats normal considering I didn't watch it regularly and just saw a random episode here and there, did the same with Inuyasha and never really knew what was happening there either lol. Well anyways, felt like I was teenager again for some time while watching it, that's some mad nostalgia not gonna lie, makes me sad this is one of the seemingly forgotten shows.
The truth is Kodachi is best girl anything else is massive amounts of copium. Except Nabiki
Ukyo is the best girl

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anon 11/23/2022 (Wed) 20:36:18 No. 1900 [Reply]
Just watched this. Pure badassery in animated form, Gunsmith Cats was fun but I think this edges it out. Any more Sonoda stuff worth checking out?
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>>1900 >Any more Sonoda stuff worth checking out? Nah, just the manga of GSC and Bean Bandit the 7 minute kick started anime where only around 4 minutes is actually animated and the last 3 are credits. A shame too since it's exactly what I wanted from a modern Riding Bean. I know a lot of people dislike the manga for certain reasons, the ending of Burst is kind of stupid and unrealistic but overall I enjoyed what I read just because it's fun in general. I also enjoyed the insights into guns from Sonoda, guy knows his stuff despite living in Japan. I'd say if you enjoyed something like GSC/Riding Bean, here are a few other things I enjoyed that had a similar vibe, both retro and not: Read or Die Dirty Pair Golgo 13 Lupin (kinda) Armor Hunter Mellowlink (also kinda, more mecha) Candy and Cigarettes (manga) Outlaw Star Cowboy Bebop Black Lagoon

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Magical Girl thread anon 01/23/2022 (Sun) 02:40:10 No. 316 [Reply]
Does /ar/ like mahou shoujo anime?
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I watched Creamy Mami a while back. I love Akemi Takada's character designs too much.
>>1197 They know their audience
>>1893 Yeah their audience of normal japanese people who wouldn't see anything sexual in such gestures because nips like the rest of the civilized world shower with their kids without getting an erection. they definitely didn't know subhuman gaijin pedos such as yourself would be watching decades later and I imagine they would be frightened if they knew
>>1190 It's on Retrocrush, but I have no idea where they got their subs.
Are they good even?

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Education resource thread anon 01/30/2022 (Sun) 01:12:38 No. 414 [Reply]
This is a thread to provide resources for anons to educate themselves on the history, production process, and common critical language of anime and manga (I am less educated on manga personally, so my recommendations will be anime focused). Here is a useful article that is a great overview on anime as an artform, how it got to be the way it is, and what distinguishes it from cartoons: https://www.tofugu.com/japan/anime-vs-cartoons/ The Dragonball fandom has an excellent series of articles about the production process of your average television anime (both the retro and digital workflows are explained), as well as a map of all of the staff and what they do: https://www.kanzenshuu.com/animation-production/process/ https://www.kanzenshuu.com/animation-production/positions-and-roles/ Here is another article that helps establish a baseline knowledge for talking about animation quality, or more specifically some pitfalls to avoid when discussing it: https://www.kanzenshuu.com/animation-production/quality/ For those who want a much more in depth and technical book on an academic study of anime as an artform, there are several books I could recommend, but by far I find this the most useful: https://film7000.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/thomaslamarre-2009-theanimemachine.pdf Finally if you'd like some insight into the history of the American anime community, this is a great book: https://u1lib.org/book/5612293/e70b96 Feel free to share your own resources if you have any, the more educated the community, the more we can appreciate what we love!
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>>414 https://fullfrontal.moe/animage-1988-11-ova/ Animage industry interview from 1988, on the OVA market.
>>428 Excellent, I wanted to dive more into sakuga/animator culture. Thanks!
this stuff is really interesting, cheers
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>>414 New interview with legendary animator Shinya Ohira. https://fullfrontal.moe/nterview-shinya-ohira/ Ohira discusses Yoshinori Kanada, Masahito Yamashita, the new Urusei Yatsura series, and more! "It’s well-known that you became an animator after discovering Masahito Yamashita’s[6] work on Urusei Yatsura[7]. What would you say is the appeal of Yamashita’s animation? Shin’ya Ohira: Let’s see… (thinks) First, there’s the mood and dynamic action he inherited from Yoshinori Kanada[8]. But Yamashita has things that Kanada doesn’t, like physicality and details… It’s hard to express. Yamashita’s animation is both sharp and sensual. I really like that sort of fleshy mood, and I also love curved and irregular lines… Kanada used rulers, so it’s very sharp and straight, whereas Yamashita’s drawings are just curves, and he puts them together to create something very dense with details… (thinks) I think that’s what I like about him. That’s why I like Yamashita’s touch more than Kanada’s. Since we’re on Urusei Yatsura, what movie is your favorite, Only You[9] or Beautiful Dreamer[10]? Shin’ya Ohira: Only You, of course! (everybody laughs) There’s a new Urusei Yatsura TV show coming out soon. Will you watch it?

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>>414 >>428 Fascinating stuff, thanks OP.

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Anime Cels 01/31/2022 (Mon) 21:53:02 No. 495 [Reply]
Anyone here collect anime cels? Or dougas/gengas? My collection is pretty small so far, pic related is my cel and douga of Yuumura Kirika from Noir. I'm actually looking for a good UV-blocking frame for it, anyone know of a good one that's about the needed size? (my douga measured to be about 10.5x9.5 so I'm guessing the cel is about the same)
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And with that, my last never ever is a good Noriko from Gunbuster for under a grand. Already given up on Asuka and Misty. Shocked I found a reasonable Misato over the years.
Everyone talks about cels, but has anyone ever tried to collect backgrounds?
>>1836 I actually saw alot of those when i was looking around so im assuming people do.
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>>1837 It's usually complete which is really impressive. Like this one which is only 100 bucks.
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I recently bought a bunch of anime cels because they were cheap, but they pretty obviously haven't been taken care of. I bet they were put into sleeves when they left the production studio in 1996 and not touched since. Since I got them I tried to take off the sketches, all of which were stuck to the cel. I managed to get off most of them with minor damage to the sketches, but these two just wouldn't come. For one, the paint actually started coming off (at which point I stopped, put it in my archival sleeve, and didn't touch it again). Is there anything I can do about these? Is leaving the sketch there going to damage them? What's the best thing here?

Takarajima (Treasure Island) anon 11/16/2022 (Wed) 07:42:33 No. 1886 [Reply]
This anime was incredibly good. I am surprised nobody really talks about it especially with other adaptations of Treasure Island being dug up because of recent memes.
>>1886 Ah yes, Takarajima is a real classic and I absolutely love it. Having never read Treasure Island the entire anime was incredibly good and kept me on the edge of my seat throughout, especially during the parts on the island itself. I've already talked about how I felt about the anime in the Dezaki thread on this board: >>1622, but to reiterate it here for some discussion of the anime itself. I loved the adventure aspect of the anime and enjoyed seeing it mostly from Jim's perspective. I have a soft spot for actual child protags who are thrown into a dangerous situation (Future Boy Conan for example) and have to outsmart and outperform everyone they go up against despite the fact they're only a kid and usually underestimated by everyone which gives them an advantage because you never know how they'll succeed or IF they'll succeed so it's always keeps my interest going. Character wise, all of them are pretty great. Silver is an amazing character with a great VA, and I loved Grey too and his fate still brings a tear to my eye, seeing someone who seemed unkillable meet his end like that was truly heart wrenching. The art is incredible, as is any Dezaki anime and some of the backgrounds were amazing to look at. Overall, it's just a fantastic anime that I sort of wish got a dub since I think it could be a good anime for boys around Jim's age but subs are a tough sell. >I am surprised nobody really talks about it especially with other adaptations of Treasure Island being dug up because of recent memes. What recent memes?
Treasure Island's great. I watched it with some friends back in 2021 and it's just so....fun. It's just got this great sense of adventure and every episode just flew by. I love that Jim has a leopard cub and that Benbow grows up so at the end Jim is just this guy walking around with a leopard like it's totally normal. And it's got my favorite Long John Silver in media. I'm going to pick up the official release for sure, I hope it gets more people watching it.
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>>1887 I also have a real soft spot for child main characters when they are done right and Jim was definitely done right. It was an extremely surprising series since it did so many things that I wouldn't expect to see in a story based on an old adventure book like a morally gray antagonist who kind of wins in the end or most of the conflicts being battles of wits. I was fully expecting it to be cheesy swashbuckling action like those old pirate movies my great grandparents used to watch. Silver is quite possibly my favorite anime antagonist of all time. I am definitely going to have to read the book some time soon. >what recent memes Those soviet Livesy memes have led to some people in the animation community digging up other weird European Treasure Island adaptations and reevaluating stuff like Treasure Planet.
>>1889 Treasure Planet is incredibly bizarre and half the time I couldn't make sense of what I was watching, but I have to give them some props for that ending.

anon 03/14/2022 (Mon) 22:23:22 No. 905 [Reply]
Have you seen Golden Boy?
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>>1446 No, because I heard the manga ruins the character of Kintaro, and I don't want that.
>>1455 I read it to the end and it really goes off the rails. Here's a basic summary of what I remember -A long arc where Kintaro poses as a schoolgirl -An arc where Kintaro's old college classmate is running a VR sex cult -Kintaro gets hypnotized by the sex cult -A flashback arc where you think you'll learn about Kintaro's past and why he travels and studies, but it's just lots of philosophizing and lots of sex -Actually most of the later manga can be described as "lots of philosophizing and lots of sex" -The art gets really weird and "stretchy" looking -The manga ends abruptly in the middle of a sex scene--which featured lots of philosophizing This might sound hard to believe but I actually like the manga and how crazy it gets.It's like the author dropped acid and decided to start experimenting
I'm currenly rewatching it. From the best retro anime, especially for an ecchi comedy. It sucks that they didn't made more episodes.
One of my favorite anime. Love the character designs, love the flexibility in the animation. Great characters. Arguably the best dub of its time (sub is great too!). Just a banger of an ecchi comedy.
>>1447 Man, the manga certainly goes places. I wasn't expecting the hard turn into NTR drama for example or the rape scenes. This is one case where the anime absolutely beats the pants off the manga.

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